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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 31, 2012 18:08:28 GMT -6
Thanks for that narrative and report! Exciting!
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 31, 2012 6:47:32 GMT -6
John, that'll get ya an exalt! :-)
An insatiated impatient,
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 26, 2012 14:38:59 GMT -6
Very awesome. Love to hear about others' experiences with the game! Have fun!
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 24, 2012 15:51:46 GMT -6
The AD&D game that I'm in uses dominoes regularly. One domino represents 5' wide and 10' long, so it's easy to work out movement and such with miniatures. oooooohhh I like that! Never thought of that potential! So I can get out the boxes and tins full of dominos we have too!
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 24, 2012 9:27:50 GMT -6
We used dominos in the 80's, they work well and are portable. I might use them again someday but recently I just make vague hand gestures and point a few mini to get the description across. -Mike I love the "vague hand gestures." :-) Sent from my ADR8995 using ProBoards
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 24, 2012 9:16:08 GMT -6
We haven't used dominos, but we often use "Jenga" blocks. I think we have 4-5 sets. They're easy to find at thrift stores and such for cheap!
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 22, 2012 19:55:14 GMT -6
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 22, 2012 19:29:49 GMT -6
Ah, delightful! It's been about that long for me as well and I share your sentiments. Upon having a renaissance to the hobby about 2 years ago after such a long hiatus, Gangbusters was one of the first boxed sets I sought out. I've since completed my collection, but have had far too few opportunities to play. Aside from having the opportunity to meet Rick, and a few short games with my boys, my love of the game has been limited to multiple reads of the books. Someday! Someday!
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 21, 2012 12:58:35 GMT -6
Think of it this way: Who would you rather support with your hard earned cash? Wizards of the Coast or the likes of John Adams, Matt Finch, Dan Procter, etc.? It's not a difficult choice for me. Totally with you here! Sent from my ADR8995 using ProBoards
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 20, 2012 6:54:52 GMT -6
I expect that WoTC will be under some pressure to rerelease the LBB in some form as well. That would make this set of rules even more important to anyone wanting to publish adventures for OD&D or any variation of it as you can bet the LBB reprint won't be covered by the OGL or GSL. If you are still sitting on the fence about pre-ordering this game - please reconsider and grab your wallet! It will be worth it Craig J. Brain Hear Hear!!
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 8:38:55 GMT -6
It bugs me though to make it seem as if Dave Arneson wasn't in the picture.
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 18, 2012 16:53:54 GMT -6
Hey, everybody, I'm probably one of the most interested in this conversation, but I'm involved in a big product launch and life's been busy. Hold my place in this conversation!! :-)
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 14, 2012 14:27:14 GMT -6
Fantastic! Thanks for posting this. I was actually thinking this AM about starting a new thread on the same topic after ruminating on my post earlier in the "Thief" thread. Here; odd74.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=6772&page=2#88642/I'm actually think of creating a curriculum for teachers and trainers, where refereeing a role-playing game is part of the pedagogy. (d**n fine unintentional alliteration there) As I have time later, I'll post more of my thoughts. I'd love for some of you who are educators to drop your thoughts!
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 14, 2012 6:50:03 GMT -6
It is often part of the ref's role to educate the group. And this is not acknowledged enough in our hobby. Have an exalt for bringing this up again. People often think I'm joking when I tell them, but I'm absolutely convinced that this hobby is what inspired and equipped me for a life in education, training, and public speaking. I learned so much by the use of imagination, description, explanation, creating scenarios (aka "lesson plan"), leading group discussions, bringing other people into a group... and I could go on and on. [sorry for the O.T., but I get pretty passionate about this]
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 10, 2012 5:13:13 GMT -6
I haven't found a huge difference between 1e and 2e except editing and "fleshing out." Either one is fine with me. I'm in!
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 9, 2012 14:58:34 GMT -6
Interesting, I've never seen too many differences, but then I usually just use the MM most of the time.
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 9, 2012 2:26:25 GMT -6
I definitely encourage you to NOT allow the Thief class, especially if you are already so inclined. Suggest the player consider playing an Elf or Hobbit. I'd agree. There isn't any particular function that couldn't be handled elsewise, if you're sticking to the 3lbb's.
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 8, 2012 18:21:09 GMT -6
I haven't been using it very long, but these are my observations so far: Pros:* Most people aren't familiar with it at all, so it injects a sense of danger and mystery into combat. * At higher levels, or when players are controlling multiple PCs, you get to roll handfuls of dice, and there's something that's just really pleasing about that. * It is a very fast combat resolution system, especially for large groups of similar combatants. * Using this system gives a lot of insight into the original game. A +1 sword is an amazing boost using the Chainmail rules, and a lot of other things in the game that never made much sense become clearer when viewed in the context of using it in conjunction with chainmail. Having 5d6 followers or encountering 30-300 men suddenly begins to not only make sense, but to be a natural fit to the game. Cons:* You have to be patient at the beginning when teaching people. Many veteran D&D players will get a WTF attitude since they know D&D in and out, yet this is new to them. * It seems complex on paper, but it really isn't once you get the hang of it. * It is often inexact, and rounding is necessary. * It's abstractness can make you scratch your head sometimes. You gotta learn to just roll with it. * It's very swingy, and winning initiative becomes a huge deal. Another clarification, when I say Chainmail combat, I am generally talking about the mass combat rules. I rarely use the man-to-man tables (except for in the case of missile fire). I never use the fantasy combat table. I think there is definite value in using the system in play, especially if you are into understanding D&D's roots, and where things came from, and why certain things are the way they are. If you want to test it out, have a big test combat with a couple PCs between levels 4 and 10, and a bunch of mundane men-types or humanoids. A hearty Amen to all of those observations. I spent a couple weeks studying, testing, and playing OD&D with the Chainmail rules and there is a lot to love. I currently use the "Alternative Combat" rules for most of our game. (via Labyrinth Lord) But anyone that wants to really understand the evolution of "the Game" should play some Chainmail!
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 8, 2012 18:09:49 GMT -6
To expand a little more, I'll just "backport" AD&D rules and pull in any OD&D rules as desired, not to mention stuff from old Dragons, SR and so on. We basically play the LL core rules with AEC character options and a few house rules tossed in. I use my old 1e Monster Manual, and or other 1e stuff for inspiration or just to throw something new into the game. The LL Core as you mentioned, is quite "comfortable" and is happy with or without finagling. Both LL books are "canon" and on the table when we play "LL." I've never actually played the OEC, just read it. When we play the "OD&D" rules... the 3LBB's are on the table. :-)
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 8, 2012 16:28:12 GMT -6
I'm giving you an exalt even before I read it, just because it's formatted in booklet-size pages. :-)
The other thing, already commented on and discussed at length in any and every OSR forum, is the lethal-ness of any particular weapon. I've resolved to use exploding dice in most situations. (and/or on a natural 20, you get to roll the d30 for damage.) :-)
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 8, 2012 8:54:30 GMT -6
The link took me to a blank screen. Just sit still, Marv, Morpheous is on his way. ;D
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 8, 2012 7:58:22 GMT -6
....To me, OD&D is as much an attitude as an actual set of rules. Now that was a Sunday AM sermon there, Brother Marv! though I like playing just the 3LBB's too, it's difficult to find others so sympathetic.
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 7, 2012 21:30:19 GMT -6
One of the beautíes of the LL system is the unification of the "styles" of the various flavors of OD&D thru 1e. Simply get a copy of the Original Edition Characters book and use whatever you'd like from there and/or drop an Advanced Edition Character into the mix as needed to pacify those who would rather play with those options.
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 7, 2012 5:28:48 GMT -6
I actually find it bizarre that the Exorcist made it on that list... I know, my head's spinning on that one... Sent from my Transformer TF101 using ProBoards
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 4, 2012 5:38:24 GMT -6
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 3, 2012 6:57:28 GMT -6
Actually, that's an awesome spell: Create 10' Radius. Just the thing when the party needs to create a 10' radius. I could use one right now. I'm at Starbucks.
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 2, 2012 19:19:13 GMT -6
I�ve long thought a Narnia game would be perfect for kids. If you ever had them read to you as a young child, you surely remember wondering what it would be like to visit Narnia yourself. You can circumvent character creation altogether and just start with them playing as themselves. That right there is a total win! Sent from my Transformer TF101 using ProBoards
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 2, 2012 17:32:42 GMT -6
I'd definitely wear a D&D t-shirt if I had one (assuming it's cool, but if it wasn't I wouldn't have it!). I've been wanting to make a t-shirt saying "Beware of the owlbear", but I haven't gotten around to it. .... or "Beware of Owlbear hugs"
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 2, 2012 13:22:37 GMT -6
I saw and downloaded a copy of "Born of Hope" about a year ago, BUT never heard of the "Hunt for Gollum" thanks for the tip, I'll check it out!
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 1, 2012 14:32:20 GMT -6
I'd like to have at least one REGULAR group for OSR gaming, I'd also like to continue building a large setting/campaign that will be co-designed for both LL and Savage Worlds with my 15 year old son. We've begun the initial design a couple months ago, and it's looking very cool.
I'd also like to publish 2-3 "one-sheet" type scenarios for OD&D/Delving Deeper, Labyrinth Lords, Savage Worlds, etc.
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