Azafuse
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Post by Azafuse on Jan 19, 2012 1:22:03 GMT -6
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Post by waysoftheearth on Jan 19, 2012 2:38:33 GMT -6
Now that is awesome.
Perhaps the commemorative cover will say "5E" on it? ;D
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Post by zarathustra on Jan 19, 2012 6:40:49 GMT -6
Looks like they are making some sort of effort at last to hold out an olive branch ?
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Jan 19, 2012 8:38:55 GMT -6
It bugs me though to make it seem as if Dave Arneson wasn't in the picture.
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Post by trebormills on Jan 19, 2012 9:27:23 GMT -6
"Available in limited quantities as a hobby channel exclusive in North America."
oh dear...will someone please think of the children.
Apart from that great news
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Post by murquhart72 on Jan 19, 2012 10:28:35 GMT -6
They really should do Deities & Demigods as well (there were technically 4 books to start, according to Gary), but I'll be getting at least one of each if I can! Hope this isn't some kind of early April Fools joke...
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Post by Finarvyn on Jan 19, 2012 10:32:54 GMT -6
It bugs me though to make it seem as if Dave Arneson wasn't in the picture. Agreed. I think that the Gygax Memorial Fund is probably a great place for the money to go, but it pains me that Dave wasn't mentioned anywhere.  |
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Post by murquhart72 on Jan 19, 2012 10:36:54 GMT -6
Dave doesn't have a memorial fund that I'm aware of. I'm sure he'll still be in the credits as the interiors are like the originals. However it should be noted: AD&D was Gary's baby, Dave went on with D&D in a different route...
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Post by Finarvyn on Jan 19, 2012 10:45:41 GMT -6
Oh, I agree that Gary and Dave had gone in different directions by the time AD&D was printed, but somehow Dave deserved some sort of mention or something since AD&D was an evolution from OD&D.
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Post by Falconer on Jan 19, 2012 11:30:16 GMT -6
Remember, Wizards hasn’t even done an official announcement or anything, yet. Just a sales solicitation and some rudimentary entries in their online catalog with a brief blurb. What’s clear is that part of the purpose of this re-release is as a tribute to Gary specifically, so maybe they didn’t want to confuse the issue by mentioning that Dave was the co-creator of the game albeit not the co-author of these particular books; and then they would have to get into the fact that First Edition doesn’t really mean First Edition, unnecessarily confusing vendors. So you can’t really blame them.
Maybe if they did a reprint of OD&D + FFC they could just mention Dave’s name! Ah well, one can dream… In the meantime, who the heck owns the rights to reprinting AiF?
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Post by Falconer on Jan 19, 2012 13:23:30 GMT -6
They really should do Deities & Demigods as well (there were technically 4 books to start, according to Gary) If they were going to release a fourth product, there are plenty of things I could think of that I would much rather see than DDG: CSIO ToEE WoG Holmes + B1 + B2 DM Screen Any of the above would be fantastic! |
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Post by talysman on Jan 19, 2012 13:43:41 GMT -6
Remember, Wizards hasn’t even done an official announcement or anything, yet. Just a sales solicitation and some rudimentary entries in their online catalog with a brief blurb. What’s clear is that part of the purpose of this re-release is as a tribute to Gary specifically, so maybe they didn’t want to confuse the issue by mentioning that Dave was the co-creator of the game albeit not the co-author of these particular books; and then they would have to get into the fact that First Edition doesn’t really mean First Edition, unnecessarily confusing vendors. So you can’t really blame them. I think this is the case. In fact, the more I think about it, this is probably the culmination of months of thinking, so probably it was prompted by someone from the Gygax Memorial Fund approaching them to see if they would contribute. WotC execs debated it a long time and approved this reprint. |
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Post by Mr. Darke on Jan 19, 2012 22:59:53 GMT -6
Let's hope that this sells well and they decided to reprint OD&D!
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Post by tombowings on Jan 20, 2012 0:09:11 GMT -6
From what I've heard from Mike Mearls, it seems like it's less that someone is championing the older editions and more than everyone that was holding them back is now gone.
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Post by waysoftheearth on Jan 20, 2012 6:32:04 GMT -6
I will be buying these for sure. The only question is, whether they will ship to Australia. And if, not, who in the US will post them to me??? ;D
p.s. I pay it forward. And it works. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 8:24:03 GMT -6
I will be buying these for sure. The only question is, whether they will ship to Australia. And if, not, who in the US will post them to me??? ;D p.s. I pay it forward. And it works. ;D Check PM. |
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Post by crusssdaddy on Jan 20, 2012 18:30:57 GMT -6
It's weird... 5 years ago I would have bought these, as at that time 1e was my fave. But now, exposure to the OSR renewed my interest in Basic and especially 0e, which is now my go-to edition.
I'd love to see (and would buy) not a strict reprint of the LBBs, but a reorganization and merging like what was done with the fan-made Frazetta art version.
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Post by jmccann on Jan 21, 2012 0:40:07 GMT -6
It's weird... 5 years ago I would have bought these, as at that time 1e was my fave. But now, exposure to the OSR renewed my interest in Basic and especially 0e, which is now my go-to edition. I'd love to see (and would buy) not a strict reprint of the LBBs, but a reorganization and merging like what was done with the fan-made Frazetta art version. I can see the appeal of that, but I think the danger is that, just like the fan-based reorganizations, some editorial changes will be made. Personally, I'd just take a nicely cleaned up scan and drop in some Frazetta line drawings and other similar art (maybe including some DAT, DCS, Otis etc.). The only changes I'd like to see made are fixed typos. I'd leave all the references to OS, CM etc. as is. |
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busman
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Post by busman on Jan 28, 2012 23:23:01 GMT -6
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Post by Zenopus on Feb 9, 2012 21:48:43 GMT -6
 Updated cover images from the WOTC website. I stitched the three pics together for ease in viewing. They say AD&D now rather than just D&D. They are better than I was expecting. Nice way to update the covers yet use part of the old art. I'd prefer less squiggles/curlicues but they aren't too bad. The color scheme (brown with yellow and red) reminds me a bit of the World of Greyhawk boxset cover. |
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Post by foxroe on Feb 9, 2012 21:58:16 GMT -6
I think they are excellent.
And yes... very Greyhawk!
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Post by Finarvyn on Feb 10, 2012 9:32:13 GMT -6
It's weird... 5 years ago I would have bought these, as at that time 1e was my fave. But now, exposure to the OSR renewed my interest in Basic and especially 0e, which is now my go-to edition. An interesting sentiment, and one I have as well. There was a time when I wanted reprints so badly that I would have paid almost any price for them. Just the idea that WotC would bring back the classics was so awesome. Now there are so many options out there and I have this feeling that WotC turned their backs on us for so long that I have a hard time getting really pumped up for them. Of course, I didn't play that much AD&D back in the day since I stuck to OD&D, so that may affect my enthusiasm. My AD&D rulebooks are almost brand new and I have a set of "beater" reading copies so the need for new ones is diminished. The internet and e-bay has been wonderful for the OSR. |
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Post by rabindranath72 on Feb 10, 2012 9:56:40 GMT -6
From what I've heard from Mike Mearls, it seems like it's less that someone is championing the older editions and more than everyone that was holding them back is now gone. This is interesting. I wonder who s/he was. The most notable layoffs have been the ones of Bill Slavicsek and Steve Winter. |
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Post by Finarvyn on Feb 11, 2012 6:32:03 GMT -6
By the way, Zenopus, an EXALT to you for finding and posting the cover art. Last I knew they had sort of lame B&W place-holder art and this does look pretty cool.  |
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ralph
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Post by ralph on Feb 11, 2012 6:49:49 GMT -6
"Available in limited quantities as a hobby channel exclusive in North America." Is there some kind soul willing to assist a poor soul on the wrong side of the pond...  |
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Feb 11, 2012 7:52:13 GMT -6
It's weird... 5 years ago I would have bought these, as at that time 1e was my fave. But now, exposure to the OSR renewed my interest in Basic and especially 0e, which is now my go-to edition. I'd love to see (and would buy) not a strict reprint of the LBBs, but a reorganization and merging like what was done with the fan-made Frazetta art version. I agree with these sentiments as Marv already stated. What I liked about 1e I can now play with AEC Labyrinth Lord (even though I have the original 1e AD&D books) ..or use some of the Supplements and keep the 3lbb's as the core. But yes, to see WoTC fund a 1-vol edit/compiling of the 3lbb's with some cool old-school art would be groovetacular! (I like Franzetta, but when one of my aims is to introduce the game to kids as young as 8yo... some might oppose.) |
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Feb 11, 2012 13:30:01 GMT -6
Sean, I agree, but could you remove the name from you post? Or maybe some Mod magic, Marv?  |
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Feb 11, 2012 13:44:31 GMT -6
Name? :-)
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Feb 11, 2012 14:53:51 GMT -6
Name? :-) Sent from my ADR8995 using ProBoards See PM. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2012 9:26:03 GMT -6
While it's nice of them to do this, I have no problem finding original copies used in great condition. And I only buy the ones without the orange spine.
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