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Post by Starbeard on Jan 1, 2022 14:52:01 GMT -6
There is the Orr report for Roll20. Scroll down and click the PDF link for details. Looks like AD&D was .19%. OD&D was .05%. Then they have some clones listed like Basic Fantasy RPG and Old School Essentials at .06% and Labyrinth Lord at .01%. I'm wondering if they combine OD&D and B/X as Original D&D (any edition)?
blog.roll20.net/posts/the-orr-report-q3-2021/They do. The parsing of D&D editions pre3e is really all over the place at Roll20. I've played more than one game listed as AD&D when it was in fact a B/X retroclone being used. Last I checked into it, OD&D, all versions of Basic & RC were all lumped into one category, but many retroclones were split off into separate games, etc.
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Post by Starbeard on Jan 1, 2022 15:44:54 GMT -6
There is the Orr report for Roll20. Scroll down and click the PDF link for details. Looks like AD&D was .19%. OD&D was .05%. Then they have some clones listed like Basic Fantasy RPG and Old School Essentials at .06% and Labyrinth Lord at .01%. I'm wondering if they combine OD&D and B/X as Original D&D (any edition)?
blog.roll20.net/posts/the-orr-report-q3-2021/They do. The parsing of D&D editions pre3e is really all over the place at Roll20. I've played more than one game listed as AD&D when it was in fact a B/X retroclone being used. Last I checked into it, OD&D, all versions of Basic & RC were all lumped into one category, but many retroclones were split off into separate games, etc. There's also the question of whether to count just games listed as D&D or a straight clone, or games that are inspired by a version of D&D/clone. Like, would DCC, Lamentations, Hero's Journey, ACKS, Black Hack, and the rest of that never ending list all count as points for B/X?
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Post by scottenkainen on Jan 2, 2022 16:15:33 GMT -6
There is the Orr report for Roll20. Scroll down and click the PDF link for details. Looks like AD&D was .19%. OD&D was .05%. Then they have some clones listed like Basic Fantasy RPG and Old School Essentials at .06% and Labyrinth Lord at .01%. I'm wondering if they combine OD&D and B/X as Original D&D (any edition)?
blog.roll20.net/posts/the-orr-report-q3-2021/This tells us something, but obviously not the whole story. Even if every virtual tabletop site published similar reports, OD&D is going to score low because you don't need all their bells and whistles to play OD&D. Ah, for the days when The Strategic Review could publish a comprehensive list of all the DMs with active campaigns there were anywhere!
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Post by Maximus on Jan 22, 2022 5:49:00 GMT -6
I play mostly 1E modules, supplemented by 1E/OSRIC compatible material, although the system I use is C&C. I've used a decent amount of stuff from smaller publishers that have the old school feel to them.
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Post by dukeofchutney on Feb 2, 2022 8:26:27 GMT -6
Long term lurker on these forums. I discovered what was then often referred to as the OSR around 2012 having first played D&D at 3.5.
The OSR seems to be on a similar trajectory to indie video games around a decade ago, or rogue likes. Early on indie video games were all pixel platformers built by individuals at home it then evolved in to everything not Activision-Blizzard sized. Roguelikes were very OD&D Ad&d games with ascii graphics with a small number of fans in a corner of the internet. These days anything with permadeath or random generation can be called a rogue like. It might not look much like nethack.
So how invested am I? I still buy D&D third party adventures and read peoples house rules. I’m less interested in the wider merge with the indie story telling zine scene. The success of OSE does surprise me a bit as other than layout it makes no concessions to modern rule sets. Play styles of course come from the user.
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Post by Parzival on Feb 2, 2022 9:02:13 GMT -6
I chose “no real investment” because I’ve spent exactly $0 on any of the retro clones or supplements, modules or settings. I’ve got my original 1e, BECMI, and RC stuff on the shelf, so I really don’t need anything further.
I have downloaded (legit) free versions of Swords & Wizardry, Labyrinth Lord, Dark Dungeons, etc., (even Castles & Crusades) when offered by the publishers, but I don’t play ‘em. They are fun to peruse, but the RC has the stuff I want and need. And it’s the stuff in my head these days, too, melded with my own house rules. (What you remember is really what you play.)
I have made the monetary investment of buying the WotC PDF scans of the original RC, B/X, and OD&D books, as well as a few the BECMI supplements and modules, but those aren’t OSR, they’re just OS. I use the PDFs ‘cause they’re convenient and searchable on my iPad. To be honest, the only reason I sprung for B/X and OD&D was for comparison purposes.
I did buy the Holmes set last year for nostalgia, and for the potential of introducing the Old School to my grand nieces and nephews, who are fast approaching that age. Who knows— someday a grandchild of my own might be playing it with Granddaddy. That would be the best old school I can imagine.
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