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Post by angelicdoctor on Dec 28, 2014 20:05:10 GMT -6
This morning, I get a notification about what appeared to be an incredible deal on the ODD with supplements available on eBay. I put in a bid for $12 just to get on the board so to speak as well as to get notified as to when the auction is about to end. I went in knowing full well that my measly $12 wasn't going to be even close to what the end price will be especially this early in the auction with 6 days left to go. That was this morning. This evening when I checked in, the auction was already at over $100! Who the heck are these bidders? What? Are they new? You don't go into an auction bidding up the friggin' price to the level of impossibility for most buyers this early in the $#!% auction! That is just asinine. Sometimes I wonder whether or not these bidders are actually legitimate folks who honestly want to get the best possible deal that they can. I call shenanigans! The now idiotic auction: www.ebay.com/itm/191463439319?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
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Post by chicagowiz on Dec 29, 2014 9:27:27 GMT -6
That's the way the original LBBs go, especially with OD&D clocking in at 35 to 40 years of age, depending on the printing. With all the books, supplements and Ref Sheets? $100 is not unreasonable at all.
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Post by scottenkainen on Dec 29, 2014 9:50:03 GMT -6
The real question is, who is this gamer in Algonquin (not that far away from me) with an OD&D White Box, and why isn't he in my gaming group?
~Scott "-enkainen" Casper
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 13:15:38 GMT -6
I feel like I'm missing a joke here. $100 for all this is still less than the original cover price adjusted for inflation.
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Post by scottenkainen on Dec 29, 2014 13:28:26 GMT -6
(I assumed Angelic's rant was tongue-in-cheek about how most Ebay auctions for rare goods are ignored until the last day, and then everyone tries to outbid each other in the last hour.)
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Post by snorri on Dec 29, 2014 13:42:20 GMT -6
about 60$ for shipping and taxes for France. Even with that, if I could afford it I would bid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 15:15:30 GMT -6
For the box, the 3LBBs and all the supplements that is a bargain. The people I wonder about are the ones that are paying over $300.00 for the OCE sans supplements.
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Post by chicagowiz on Dec 29, 2014 16:30:07 GMT -6
(It occurs to me that we might all be getting setup by someone wanting more than $100 for his complete OD&D set....)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 16:46:13 GMT -6
You don't go into an auction bidding up the friggin' price to the level of impossibility for most buyers this early in the $#!% auction! That is just asinine. Sometimes I wonder whether or not these bidders are actually legitimate folks who honestly want to get the best possible deal that they can. I call shenanigans! Crom laughs at your bitter tears of useless rage, little man. Some of us simply bid as much as we're willing to pay and forget about it, and we either get the item or we don't. |
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Post by angelicdoctor on Dec 29, 2014 19:54:49 GMT -6
I feel like I'm missing a joke here. $100 for all this is still less than the original cover price adjusted for inflation. No, I agree with you there, amigo. However, 6 days away from an auction's end is hardly a time I would expect this item to already sit at and I've been watching these things for about 6 months now. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 21:11:24 GMT -6
I'm not really surprised at all, the prices have been going up for quite a while, pricing it out of the hands of fans into those of collectors only. The price point of the new 40th anniversary edition has pretty much established $150 as a minimum price.
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Post by geoffrey on Dec 29, 2014 21:32:11 GMT -6
Some of us simply bid as much as we're willing to pay and forget about it, and we either get the item or we don't. I haven't bid on anything on ebay in ages, but that's how I used to do it. |
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Post by Finarvyn on Dec 30, 2014 5:50:41 GMT -6
I'm one of those bidders who puts in a reasonable price (assuming I know the going rate for an item) and then lurks as the auction nears its end, just so I can agonize about it when I get outbid and have to decide if I'm going to up the ante by $5. That's part of why I don't do e-bay much anymore -- too much stress over stuff I want but don't win. Oh, and it's still only $112.50, which is a decent price. The real question is, who is this gamer in Algonquin (not that far away from me) with an OD&D White Box, and why isn't he in my gaming group? My guess is that he doesn't play OD&D and/or thinks all the old timers who used to play OD&D have all died off. Maybe someome should contact him through e-bay and send him a link to this place. He might pull his auction and join up!  |
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Post by barrataria on Dec 30, 2014 7:34:32 GMT -6
Some of us simply bid as much as we're willing to pay and forget about it, and we either get the item or we don't. I didn't think there was any other reasonable way to do it, since the computomachine will mindlessly bid up at .01 increments or whatever until your max bid is reached. Not that different from live auction strategy, in which the non-insane buyer should decide a hard cap before placing his/r first bid. |
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Post by chicagowiz on Dec 30, 2014 8:50:18 GMT -6
Crom laughs at your bitter tears of useless rage, little man. That's the quote of today!  |
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Post by angelicdoctor on Dec 30, 2014 10:49:35 GMT -6
How did he know that I was little? 5'4" to be exact.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 6:19:28 GMT -6
It's a general expression, or rather than that, an English idiom. Gronan has not hacked your computer, I believe. Now, if Mr Symmeria can also tell, what, my current weight, I am going to run for that tinfoiled hat... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 6:38:48 GMT -6
Oh, for the cat's sake.  Stepping away from the keyboard until 2015, folks. I need a coffee. I need two coffees. |
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Post by chicagowiz on Dec 31, 2014 8:46:28 GMT -6
It's a general expression, or rather than that, an English idiom. Gronan has not hacked your computer, I believe. Now, if Mr Symmeria can also tell, what, my current weight, I am going to run for that tinfoiled hat...  WE ARE IN CONTROL! |
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Post by rastusburne on Jan 1, 2015 5:50:20 GMT -6
Unless one acquires the Wizards reprints or has a PDF version, there is a very real financial barrier for new players to get into OD&D. I don't own any of the originals (but do own the reprints). Of course there are retroclones but it's still not quite the same.
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Post by angelicdoctor on Jan 3, 2015 21:06:51 GMT -6
Actually, there are a number of bidding techniques in addition to the proxy bidding that has been referred to. My current favorite technique is known as bid nibbling. It "involves occasionally or gradually placing bids on a single item, attempting to be the winning bidder the majority of the time. You do not have to bid your highest price upfront, rather just enough to outbid the current winning bidder. When buyers collectively "nibble" on an item by bidding in small increments, the resulting effect tends to ward off other prospective buyers, by driving the price up earlier in the auction closing timeframe to a more reasonable, yet under market value level."
That auction has about an hour left and it sits at $249.50.
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Post by skars on Jan 5, 2015 14:16:08 GMT -6
I think it's only fair to post a rant in a rant thread...WTF is going on with your signature angelicdoctor?  Do we need to go over netiquette on a forum full of grognards that likely helped build the information superhighway? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 16:24:22 GMT -6
There are no idiotic auctions, there are only idiotic people that complain about auctions.
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Post by ty on Jan 5, 2015 18:17:49 GMT -6
I wonder if there isn't a degree of artificiality to inflate bids in some instances...there are some fairly mundane items out there going for silly prices. Maybe plug into a local used games scene if there is one in your AO?
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Post by xerxez on Jan 5, 2015 18:29:47 GMT -6
This is a great community. Nuff said!
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Post by angelicdoctor on Jan 6, 2015 9:36:34 GMT -6
Thanks, xerxez. Good post. By the way, I was the idiot who ended up buying that set on eBay and that particular listing (st-william-the-confessor). (Happy feast of the Three Kings to me!) It was certainly not to my benefit to artificially inflate the auction price. Yeah, I paid that much. As a result, I will be working the remainder of the year to sell off the rest of my RPG books just to make up for it too. In my opinion, it would be well worth it. My D&D gaming collection is now complete.
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Post by kenmeister on Jan 6, 2015 10:47:12 GMT -6
Here's how I know that is a good deal. I look at my OD&D set at home, think to myself that I could get almost $300 for it on eBay, and say, "Nah..." $500, now then I'd start being tempted to sell, after all I do have the reprint box too.
The 'one that got away' is my 3.5 wilderlands of high fantasy box set. Some sort of minimalist surge came over me, I decided I wasn't going to use it, and sold it for $60 back before the prices on it skyrocketed.
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Post by angelicdoctor on Jan 6, 2015 11:41:42 GMT -6
One that mystifies me at the moment is the wood grain box someone is selling for $1500. Not quite getting that one yet. And it has a bid. Wow. Then again, maybe I shouldn't wonder. After all, it's just fiat Monopoly dollars anyway thanks to Keynsianism. But I digress... |
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Post by xerxez on Jan 6, 2015 12:35:31 GMT -6
I'm glad you got ahold of it, Angelicdoctor. I have the one digest set of OD&D rules that came out on lulu awhile back.
I would dearly love to own an original set. My fiancee's father has the three LBB's and Greyhawk and guess how much his wife paid for them in tulsa at a swap meet? It was like 20 bucks. The books are good condition except Greyhawk, which is a bit battered but still hanging together fine.
Her father and his brothers grew up on that game. My fiancee's brother owns the original set that dad had. I know two people who own them. I told them I would pay a very good price for them but they understandably did not wish to sell.
Meanwhile, I unloaded all my Tekumel collection and since doing that all of those books that were online have dried up and prices are quite high. I did see a Judges Guild copy of the Nightmare Maze of Jigresh going for under 10 bucks on Amazon. But if I spend money on Tekumel again, I will be getting Swords and Glory back or trying the hardcover rpg which I have yet to hold in my hands.
Oklahoma City was a very thriving rpg market back in the 80's, gameshops were everywhere. As a result it is not uncommon to find old school games at used books stores and swap meets at very cool prices. Half Price Books is here and they have three stores in the Metro. They usually have nine shelves or more of the neatest stuff and I have seen many old school items on them, including a set of Dragon Quest. It was going for 80 bucks. Half price books does their homework online pretty good before pricing their stuff.
But cheers to you, thats a nice Christmas present.
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Post by kenmeister on Jan 6, 2015 13:29:20 GMT -6
Not only are the hobby stores gone, even the used book stores here in Mass are going out of business.
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Do we need to go over netiquette on a forum full of grognards that likely helped build the information superhighway? 
