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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 18, 2013 20:01:48 GMT -6
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Post by waysoftheearth on Feb 18, 2013 20:11:18 GMT -6
Hoe. Lee. Cow -- it's the 7th print for real !
I'm sold already ;D
I wonder which print of the original they will reproduce?
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Post by cadriel on Feb 18, 2013 20:13:13 GMT -6
On the one hand: wow, awesome.
On the other: Holy crap, a buck fifty? My OCE with box was less than that.
On the obligatory third hand: Can't they also put out a nicely bound hardback for $50 or even $75 incorporating all 7 booklets so we can game with the thing?
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Post by talysman on Feb 18, 2013 20:16:16 GMT -6
It's way out of my price range... but then, November is my birth-month, so maybe I'll change my mind and gift myself.
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Post by waysoftheearth on Feb 18, 2013 20:20:58 GMT -6
On the other: Holy crap, a buck fifty? My OCE with box was less than that. It includes all the supplements too, so the $150 asking price is actually pretty reasonable, IMHO.
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 18, 2013 20:22:50 GMT -6
I'm glad they're reprinting and think it's a nice gesture, but, at the risk of being a party pooper, I'm unlikely to buy unless a bout of sentimentalism overwhelms me. I already have two nice 5th prints and am picking up early print supplements where I can. Plus, I already have S&W as well (in all of its forms).
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Post by waysoftheearth on Feb 18, 2013 20:30:46 GMT -6
Either way, it's possible that the reprint could renew interest in the original game, and even result in a few more visitors to this very forum. It's all for the good as far as I can see
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Post by vladtolenkov on Feb 18, 2013 20:35:10 GMT -6
Christmas Present!!!!!!!
(Imagine Hulk voice)
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Post by vladtolenkov on Feb 18, 2013 20:38:27 GMT -6
It is pricey, but the fact they included the supplements is what may have put me over the top. Plus it's a game I know I'll like.
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 18, 2013 20:39:44 GMT -6
Either way, it's possible that the reprint could renew interest in the original game, and even result in a few more visitors to this very forum. It's all for the good as far as I can see Right. I'm not complaining.
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Post by geoffrey on Feb 18, 2013 20:52:54 GMT -6
That's pretty awesome. The price isn't out-of-whack as first appears. According to the price list in the back of the 1977 printing of the Holmes rulebook, we have the following prices: OD&D boxed set: $14.95 Greyhawk: $7.50 Blackmoor: $7.50 Eldritch Wizardry: $7.50 GGD&H: $5.00 That totals $42.45. Run that through an inflation calculator and it comes to $160.83 in today's dollars. Throw in the dice and the deluxe box, and you've got quite a deal there. Edited to add: I'm not buying. Regardless of inflation, it's too rich for my blood. Plus, I'm not a collector. I'd rather have my $2 printed-out OD&D rulebooks than something so nice I'd be afraid to use it. I'm not the target audience.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 20:55:35 GMT -6
Looking forward to getting this.
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Post by archersix on Feb 18, 2013 20:55:51 GMT -6
Yeah, give me some PDFs of all the lbbs and supplements. I was really excited until I saw the freakin price!
If it was a pile of gold on an island in the middle of a lake in a dungeon, we'd be expected to loot it!
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Post by geoffrey on Feb 18, 2013 21:00:30 GMT -6
Hey, they sold out! They put FOUR six-sided dice in there! That's obviously to appease those cry-babies and bed-wetters who roll abilities with 4 dice and drop one.
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Post by Zenopus on Feb 18, 2013 21:08:33 GMT -6
I'm sure they'll put them out on pdf eventually. Though this might delay the pdf for a while, until they sell out of these.
There's no module other than Temple of the Frog, so the OD&D forum community should put together a list of adventures that are available if purchasers want to take their new set for a spin.
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Post by vladtolenkov on Feb 18, 2013 21:08:45 GMT -6
Also, the picture has an extra book. Am I wrong? Maybe that's the reference sheets? Or something just included for the picture?
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Post by Zenopus on Feb 18, 2013 21:10:04 GMT -6
I think it's the reference sheets.
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Post by cadriel on Feb 18, 2013 21:13:44 GMT -6
That totals $42.45. Run that through an inflation calculator and it comes to $160.83 in today's dollars. Throw in the dice and the deluxe box, and you've got quite a deal there. Yeah, TSR materials were notoriously expensive to the point where there was a controversy over gamers using photocopies of the OD&D rules that were circulating, and Alarums & Excursions would tell newcomers just to spend $5 on Tunnels and Trolls. And Empire of the Petal Throne commanded $25, which was a princely sum near $100 today. All of which is distorted because the D&D rules came out immediately before a period of pronounced inflation. This is still too much money. Though FWIW it looks like the eighth item behind Eldritch Wizardry is the reference shseets.
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Post by Vile Traveller on Feb 18, 2013 21:21:18 GMT -6
I don't think it's unreasonably priced, but I'm unlikely to go for it purely because of that wooden box. I don't have the storage space. It's understandable as this is clearly aimed at collectors rather than gamers, but I would have preferred a simple cardboard box. And they should definitely have included Chainmail - perhaps numerous emails to the right place will fix the issue? Has anyone seen pictures of the inside pages? Are they the same as the originals? It feels odd to me to repackage the outside but leave the inside as it was. I've heard rumours and hearsay that the cover art rights might not be theirs, but otherwise I would have either gone 100% original or 100% reformatted. Half-and-half is going to displease both camps. Anyway, good news that they are going back to pre-Moldvay Basic and pre-AD&D. Now, which version of Holmes will they re-issue?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 21:32:30 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 21:33:18 GMT -6
I think it's the reference sheets. You can't see much of the cover in the picture, but it appears there isn't any art on the cover. I'd say this makes it likely that "extra" book is indeed the reference sheets.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 21:35:08 GMT -6
Hey, they sold out! They put FOUR six-sided dice in there! That's obviously to appease those cry-babies and bed-wetters who roll abilities with 4 dice and drop one. It looks like they added a fourth d6 to make the number of dice even on both sides of the box ... to even out the artistic presentation (as it were). I'm calling the Dragon's Lair here in Austin tomorrow to reserve my copy.
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Post by vladtolenkov on Feb 18, 2013 22:17:23 GMT -6
I'm a potential buyer if only because I've contemplated plunking down that much for an OD&D white box set in the past. I don't own the original books and while I've had the PDFs since they were last available (legally)--having a PDF reprint isn't exactly the same. And I've never bothered to print out the supplements.
It would be really nice to have a real physical copy. And collector thingy or not I would totally game with those books.
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Post by vladtolenkov on Feb 18, 2013 22:22:23 GMT -6
Also: I'm guessing no Howard or Moorcock mythos in Gods, Demi-Gods, and Heroes??
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Post by waysoftheearth on Feb 18, 2013 22:50:25 GMT -6
Also: I'm guessing no Howard or Moorcock mythos in Gods, Demi-Gods, and Heroes?? And even the 6th print of the 3LBBs had a few residual Tolkien nouns in it... it will be interesting to see whether or not WotC will tidy those up.
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Post by Vile Traveller on Feb 19, 2013 0:49:48 GMT -6
A lot depends on how much of that stuff is actually trademarked - small publishers generally err on the side of caution, but WotC probably has the resources to run them past a lawyer and make sure. IIRC much of the Howard and Cthulhu stuff is public domain, although Moorcock probably isn't.
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Post by jakdethe on Feb 19, 2013 3:20:59 GMT -6
I can't help but think it's all just a ploy to get old school gamers to say "Wow that's wonderful of WOTC, I can't afford it, but obviously they are starting to listen! Lets let our guard down..." Call me cynical and paranoid, but how is any of this actually helping to promote the old school? A couple of rich collectors, who already play or collect OD&D, will snatch up the box sets, and that will be that.
What practical gaming materials have they put out to actually let new comers get into the game? Why not a nice reproduction of one of the Basic D&D games. They put out the essentials red box for $20 (very reasonable to get into the hobby). It wouldn't even have to be a faithful reproduction. WOTC could make their own retroclone, and I'd buy it up. I don't know, maybe I'm just being to negative, but it all just comes off as an obvious marketing campaign to draw interest for "DnDNext".
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Post by Vile Traveller on Feb 19, 2013 4:03:36 GMT -6
Well, they have released the B/X PDFs for the first time - IMO those are the best old-school rules to get a newbie into the game, fast.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 4:23:49 GMT -6
Would love to have this set, but too expensive for me. Still, I'm glad to see them do this.
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Post by Necropraxis on Feb 19, 2013 4:34:10 GMT -6
If they play their cards right, they will release a hardcover compilation and then PDFs at staggered intervals.
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