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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 17:26:41 GMT -6
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Post by blackbarn on Oct 20, 2012 21:16:54 GMT -6
So, it's the Marvel series again, only they are pretending this is new and has never been done before.  |
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Post by Vile Traveller on Oct 21, 2012 0:24:13 GMT -6
I think this is going to be difficult to pull off. I loved the original Marvel comics, but at that time there were no hints of what was to come and everything was fresh and new. This is going to require a lot of rolls to disbelieve all the other crap ... er, "canon" that has come out since.
It's not just a reprint of the Marvel, although I don't think that's what you were saying, right, Blackbarn?
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Post by geoffrey on Oct 21, 2012 9:44:12 GMT -6
I love the concept: Write Star Wars comics that reference NOTHING other than the 1977 Star Wars film (not even little winks and nudges and innuendoes). Completely and totally ignore the other 5 films and all the EU that has ever been published.
If I honestly thought they'd do all that, I might actually be tempted to purchase the comic. But I bet a year doesn't go by before we have at least mentioned or hinted at:
the Emperor knowing the Force
the existence of Yoda
Vader being Luke's father
Leia being Luke's sister
etc.
It's really a shame. The original film is so much fun, and this series has the potential to be a lot of fun as well. I guess time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 12:30:04 GMT -6
It certainly seemed to me (a college student when Star Wars came out) that Lucas was headed in a different direction with the story than the one he took with ESB.
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Post by blackbarn on Oct 21, 2012 20:16:44 GMT -6
I think this is going to be difficult to pull off. I loved the original Marvel comics, but at that time there were no hints of what was to come and everything was fresh and new. This is going to require a lot of rolls to disbelieve all the other crap ... er, "canon" that has come out since. It's not just a reprint of the Marvel, although I don't think that's what you were saying, right, Blackbarn? Correct, I just meant they are treading old ground here. But as you noted, in those days it was actually new and wide open... today they will have to essentially pretend and imagine that it is. Not saying it will be bad, and I applaud them for focusing on this time period, but I seriously doubt the new stuff will be as flat-out fun as the things Marvel did. Geoffrey, I agree. It would be amazing to see a series written with nothing beyond the original referenced at all. But that's never gonna' happen, and I don't think they are really promising that as far as it pertains to things that would not have been nailed-down then but are now. I think all they want to do here is tell stories that rely only on knowledge of the first film, but do not purposely deviate from the things established as canon later, either. Too bad! I would love to be able to get movies and books from some alternate universe where things progressed differently for Star Wars. Not that I hate the real one, I just love some of the possibilities that were lost, too. |
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Post by Finarvyn on Oct 23, 2012 20:19:12 GMT -6
It certainly seemed to me (a college student when Star Wars came out) that Lucas was headed in a different direction with the story than the one he took with ESB. Cameron, you are correct. I think there is a thread hereabouts about a book called "The Secret History of Star Wars" which details at great length the evolution of Lucas' original vision for Flash Gordon-esque serial to an angsty redemption saga. Also, note that "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" was supposed to be a sequel before the STAR WARS movie became such a huge hit. The direction taken there gives another glimpse into the early mind of George. |
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Post by blackbarn on Oct 26, 2012 20:29:09 GMT -6
It certainly seemed to me (a college student when Star Wars came out) that Lucas was headed in a different direction with the story than the one he took with ESB. Cameron, you are correct. I think there is a thread hereabouts about a book called "The Secret History of Star Wars" which details at great length the evolution of Lucas' original vision for Flash Gordon-esque serial to an angsty redemption saga. Also, note that "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" was supposed to be a sequel before the STAR WARS movie became such a huge hit. The direction taken there gives another glimpse into the early mind of George. I just have to chime in and recommend The Secret History of Star Wars, wholeheartedly. If you are interested in Star Wars and how it came to be, you NEED to read that book. He lays it all out and the book was thoroughly researched. You will understand why things are the way they are... and "what went wrong", if you think there are problems. Interestingly, I found it hard to be critical of Lucas after reading it. What he did made sense, and I feel now I understand what he wanted, and why he did what he did. It's all very organic and makes total sense. I don't like it, but I feel like the series is what it had to be, based on the man behind it. |
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Post by blackbarn on Feb 24, 2013 8:09:35 GMT -6
I got a look at the first two issues of this comic series. Not my cup of tea. It doesn't feel much like post-ANH to me, as it draws on things from the later films, and at least referenced something from the prequels.
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Post by geoffrey on Feb 24, 2013 22:17:03 GMT -6
I got a look at the first two issues of this comic series. Not my cup of tea. It doesn't feel much like post-ANH to me, as it draws on things from the later films, and at least referenced something from the prequels.  I'm disappointed. Not surprised, but disappointed. |
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Post by blackbarn on Mar 4, 2013 1:40:23 GMT -6
I got a look at the first two issues of this comic series. Not my cup of tea. It doesn't feel much like post-ANH to me, as it draws on things from the later films, and at least referenced something from the prequels. I'm disappointed. Not surprised, but disappointed. I guess it wasn't horrible, but it showed the immediately post-ANH Luke and Leia in X-Wings going against TIE Interceptors, Leia talking to Mon Mothma, and the Emperor scolding Vader for losing the Death Star which was "20 years" in the making, for example. It just felt wrong to me. Certainly not that "everything is new again" feel we may have been hoping for. It felt like business as usual with little imagination on display or new places, characters, ships, etc. |
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Post by saveforhalf on Mar 6, 2013 11:29:07 GMT -6
It's not exactly the same, but there was a comic series that did veer off the beaten path with Star Wars. It came out about ten years ago and was called Star Wars Infinities. There were three stories, one for each of the original films. In each story, a major event is changed, causing the story to turn in a different direction. For example, in the first one, Luke's proton torpedoes malfunction and fail to blow up the Death Star. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Infinities |
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Post by blackbarn on Mar 26, 2013 0:35:56 GMT -6
It's not exactly the same, but there was a comic series that did veer off the beaten path with Star Wars. It came out about ten years ago and was called Star Wars Infinities. There were three stories, one for each of the original films. In each story, a major event is changed, causing the story to turn in a different direction. For example, in the first one, Luke's proton torpedoes malfunction and fail to blow up the Death Star. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_InfinitiesI remember flipping through those, they looked interesting. Something new, at least! I think the reason I wasn't more interested is because we did a Star Wars RPG once where something similar was done, and I liked our ideas better.  |
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I'm disappointed. Not surprised, but disappointed.