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Post by jmccann on Jun 29, 2010 21:13:04 GMT -6
Woo hoo!
Wife is out of town, is it a coincidence that Greyhawk and Eldritch Wizardry just arrived? Does that make me a bad person?
;D
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Post by Falconer on Jun 29, 2010 21:38:58 GMT -6
No, my friend, that is the sort of coincidence every one of us hopes for, and would orchestrate if we could. ;-)
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Post by jmccann on Jun 29, 2010 21:40:33 GMT -6
Hmm. The Greyhawk staples are pretty rusty. I am considering replacing them, I am worried that the same thing that happened to my Men and Magic will happen here - the center pages have torn at the staples and I had to restaple.
Sorry about the lack of substance here, but I don't think there are many elsewhere who would understand my excitement...
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Post by Falconer on Jun 30, 2010 0:33:47 GMT -6
What’s interesting is my copy of Greyhawk has two staples that go all the way from the exterior cover to the middle, then one staple in-between them which only goes through p. 17/52 to the middle. There is some rust on them but it is not bad. It is holding together well. I would have no qualms with going ahead and carefully replacing the staples. It might technically devalue the book, but, who really cares?
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Post by Finarvyn on Jun 30, 2010 4:58:05 GMT -6
Agreed. You have to decide early on if you are a serious collector or gamer. I have my 4th printing OD&D that is my "collectable" copy and a second reading copy with is 6th printing. For a reading copy, do anything to keep it useable!
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Post by thegreyelf on Jun 30, 2010 6:07:34 GMT -6
Agreed. I have a 5th print copy with all 5 supplements which I keep pristine in boxes on the shelf, a 5.5 print which sits on the shelf, and a copy that I have mucked with beyond recognition--made new covers using Kevin Mayle's artwork, restored Tolkien references and replaced the necessary pages--with slightly beat up copies of the supplements. This latter copy I have put into a chipboard "book box" which I painted leather brown and decorated with more Kevin Mayle art for the cover. It's my actual gaming copy.
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Post by piper on Jun 30, 2010 8:34:03 GMT -6
Woo hoo! Wife is out of town, is it a coincidence that Greyhawk and Eldritch Wizardry just arrived? Does that make me a bad person? No, but it does firmly establish your geek credentials! ;D
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Post by jmccann on Jun 30, 2010 21:43:19 GMT -6
Hmm, I don't think there was much question on the geek thing. Scratch that, ANY question!
Re. collecting v. playing: Definitely I fall on the side of playing. However I re-typeset Men and Magic and printed it out in order to preserve the (damaged but usable) original (I should write this up w/ photos as I think I have something to add to that category of posting...) and it was actually the intensive handling of scanning and then doing the typesetting that wore through the paper requiring restapling. I'd like to re-typeset all of the books to create playable copies, although really only my Blackmoor, purchased minty new in 1988 for all of $3, is in tip-top shape.
Re. staples (Side note: I can't believe I am typing this)
Greyhawk: Two staples visible on spine, same two staples at center. Second printint, July 1975
Eldritch Wizardry: Three staples visible on spine DIFFERENT 3 STAPLES VISIBLE IN CENTER! should I post at Acaeum? No indication of printing. Balrog present in text. Could this be an early printing?
Oh, and I picked up a long-reach stapler at Staples this morning. No more improvised bogus stapling of booklets for me!
(edited for dopey square brace instead of manly html formatting)
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Post by jmccann on Jun 30, 2010 22:03:53 GMT -6
OK it is done. They were so corroded, one broke as I removed it. Note to self: leave ~ 1/8th of an inch additional length when you set the long-reach stapler, it doesn't go through where you expect it to. Luckily I am a gamer not a collector so the extra pair of holes doesn't bother me (much).
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Post by Falconer on Jul 1, 2010 0:23:01 GMT -6
The long-reach stapler from Staples should have a ruler along the side. You set the bar to 5.5" and it should staple through the exact middle! I bought one too, a few years ago, and it has been well worth it! The other thing I like about it is the “heavy-duty staples” it uses, which can hold together much thicker stacks than regular staples. (Don’t use regular staples in a heavy-duty stapler as it won’t work right.)
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Post by jmccann on Jul 1, 2010 1:01:43 GMT -6
It does have a ruler, but 5.5" did not staple quite right - I had to let it out about 1/8" and then it hit the line.
I used some random staples. One thing I noticed is that there was more of a curve on the staples than on the original saddle stich.
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Post by mythmere on Jul 2, 2010 6:47:08 GMT -6
It does have a ruler, but 5.5" did not staple quite right - I had to let it out about 1/8" and then it hit the line. I used some random staples. One thing I noticed is that there was more of a curve on the staples than on the original saddle stich. Because the book was already folded - the stapler arm pushed/moved the paper underneath it. The ruler assumes the paper is still flat. Even a very small amount of creasing can do that.
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