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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 7:29:38 GMT -6
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Post by bigjackbrass on Dec 8, 2016 7:44:32 GMT -6
A seller with no feedback is quite unusual for a sale like this.
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Post by tetramorph on Dec 8, 2016 8:09:25 GMT -6
You can get a PDF of the most recent reprint from WotC for $10.
Then you can do something priceless: play it.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 8, 2016 9:12:13 GMT -6
You can get a PDF of the most recent reprint from WotC for $10. Then you can do something priceless: play it. Haha! Nice. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 10:05:47 GMT -6
You can get a PDF of the most recent reprint from WotC for $10. Then you can do something priceless: play it. Haha! Nice. Quite!  |
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Post by foxroe on Dec 8, 2016 11:30:18 GMT -6
That's disgusting. The eBay listing that is.
+1 on the priceless play option...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 15:40:55 GMT -6
If this is not proof to anyone that pdfs do absolutely nothing to bring down prices on the collectors market, then there is nothing that will convince you. People with money burning a hole in their pocket will always go for the most expensive option available.
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Post by ritt on Dec 8, 2016 20:02:11 GMT -6
I wanna make fun of this... but the truth is that if I was a 1%er, I'd probably be bidding on it.  I've never actually owned a physical copy of OD&D, so I might as well go big, right? |
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Post by foxroe on Dec 8, 2016 20:54:30 GMT -6
Dude. If I was a 1%er, I'd buy the rights to D&D and get it back to its basic roots. I'd sell it in a bookshelf box for maybe $20 US, maybe offer a few modules, and create a permanent "creative license" to allow other publishers to freely create and distribute content for the game without fear of reprisal. |
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Post by Vile Traveller on Dec 9, 2016 9:10:56 GMT -6
A seller with no feedback is quite unusual for a sale like this. Some people are being very trusting there. |
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Post by dragondaddy on Dec 9, 2016 10:44:28 GMT -6
A seller with no feedback is quite unusual for a sale like this. Some people are being very trusting there. I contacted the buyer and obtained verification it's one of the first published brown book D&D sets. As an added bonus, the game includes one of the first homebrew campaign worlds ever published, along with notes from a school group. Bill was a teacher who actually put together a lesson plan and used D&D to have his students learn about medieval life, economics, math, and they all had to write after action reports about their adventures, and they were graded on that. These reports and Bill's class notes are also included as part of the sale. |
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Post by foxroe on Dec 9, 2016 10:47:51 GMT -6
Some people are being very trusting there. I contacted the buyer and obtained verification it's one of the first published brown book D&D sets. As an added bonus, the game includes one of the first homebrew campaign worlds ever published, along with notes from a school group. Bill was a teacher who actually put together a lesson plan and used D&D to have his students learn about medieval life, economics, math, and they all had to write after action reports about their adventures, and they were graded on that. These reports and Bill's class notes are also included as part of the sale. That's pretty cool. Not $11K cool, but cool none the less. |
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Post by dragondaddy on Dec 9, 2016 17:49:59 GMT -6
...and bidding closed, and the game was sold for $22,100. If that falls through, there is still a $21,000 bid on the table as well.
I contacted the seller again, and wished her well. Now here is the rest of her story for you today...
She had found this brown box 1st edition in one of her attic storage bins, a gift from that teacher Bill, many, many years ago. She was going through the stuff in her attic to sell it off, so she and her husband could take a vacation. They are a bit older you see, as all of us are who actually bought the original game. I was very, very, young when I bought my first 0D&D LBB white bookset, and I'm in my fifties now. When I inquired about the extra books (I don't need to know what is in the LBB, my first white bookset had come with a 1st edition Men and Magic, with the mounted fighter on the cover, and my Monster & Treasure had the Tolkien stuff in it, so I knew what was in the 1st edition bookset, because that what had been in my 4th edition bookset), I wanted to know about the other stuff, from that early school based gaming campaign, and she told me about that as well as little bit about her background. Writer, Editor, Farmer. She called herself the Scribe.
In her youth she had attended and graduated from the Harvard Divinity School, through her life she had become a land rights activist, an editor, and farmer, and had lived in Wisconsin. She never really had the time to take up D&D being too busy with real life. Now, towards the end, she had her Significant Other with her, a man she affectionately called The Shaman. Anyway, the Shaman has been unwell lately, on dialysis actually, and she had wanted to scrounge up enough money so that they could take a vacation to the warmth of Southern California instead of having to spend this winter in a cold, and snowy Wisconsin.
One more interesting detail she had told me, last summer, or maybe it was early Autumn, the scribe and the Shaman had traveled out to Standing Rock, to stand with the people, and to stand for their rights. While she didn't specifically tell me, I kind of gathered, that journey had taken quite a bit of their resources.
She was happy when this auction had ended a bit earlier today, and Me and my wife are both happy for her, and the shaman. Because you see, the Shaman gets to dreamwalk at least once more with her, and they will be able to now take at least once more vacation (with some luck, maybe a few more), some guy gets a 1st edition D&D bookset with one of the first homebrewed campaign worlds like ever (which is totally epic!).
D&D made someone else happy to today, and helped make their dreams come true. ...and they don't even play D&D. How epic is that?
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Post by foxroe on Dec 9, 2016 22:12:53 GMT -6
...and bidding closed, and the game was sold for $22,100. If that falls through, there is still a $21,000 bid on the table as well. I contacted the seller again, and wished her well. Now here is the rest of her story for you today... She had found this brown box 1st edition in one of her attic storage bins, a gift from that teacher Bill, many, many years ago. She was going through the stuff in her attic to sell it off, so she and her husband could take a vacation. They are a bit older you see, as all of us are who actually bought the original game. I was very, very, young when I bought my first 0D&D LBB white bookset, and I'm in my fifties now. When I inquired about the extra books (I don't need to know what is in the LBB, my first white bookset had come with a 1st edition Men and Magic, with the mounted fighter on the cover, and my Monster & Treasure had the Tolkien stuff in it, so I knew what was in the 1st edition bookset, because that what had been in my 4th edition bookset), I wanted to know about the other stuff, from that early school based gaming campaign, and she told me about that as well as little bit about her background. Writer, Editor, Farmer. She called herself the Scribe. In her youth she had attended and graduated from the Harvard Divinity School, through her life she had become a land rights activist, an editor, and farmer, and had lived in Wisconsin. She never really had the time to take up D&D being too busy with real life. Now, towards the end, she had her Significant Other with her, a man she affectionately called The Shaman. Anyway, the Shaman has been unwell lately, on dialysis actually, and she had wanted to scrounge up enough money so that they could take a vacation to the warmth of Southern California instead of having to spend this winter in a cold, and snowy Wisconsin. One more interesting detail she had told me, last summer, or maybe it was early Autumn, the scribe and the Shaman had traveled out to Standing Rock, to stand with the people, and to stand for their rights. While she didn't specifically tell me, I kind of gathered, that journey had taken quite a bit of their resources. She was happy when this auction had ended a bit earlier today, and Me and my wife are both happy for her, and the shaman. Because you see, the Shaman gets to dreamwalk at least once more with her, and they will be able to now take at least once more vacation (with some luck, maybe a few more), some guy gets a 1st edition D&D bookset with one of the first homebrewed campaign worlds like ever (which is totally epic!). D&D made someone else happy to today, and helped make their dreams come true. ...and they don't even play D&D. How epic is that? Wow, that's fantastic! I still think the price is outrageous, but it's good to know that some deserving folks benefited from the sale of such a simple little box! |
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Post by DungeonDevil on Dec 9, 2016 23:19:57 GMT -6
At least the S&H was reasonable! My question is: given the ludicrous amount paid by the buyer, is he/she also a gamer, or just one of those peculiar types who like to have something just to keep it locked up in a vault? I wonder what Gary's and Dave's thoughts would have been on such astronomical prices. |
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Post by kenmeister on Dec 10, 2016 8:26:11 GMT -6
I know the economy is doing well, but this is just, wow!
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Post by mgtremaine on Dec 10, 2016 10:38:41 GMT -6
Nice price and story... If you don't lurk on the Acaeum board you might not have seen this playing out but basically the seller did all the right things and some of the big collectors help spread the word that this was on the market and legit. So the fear of 0 feedback was dealt with inside the collectors community. (Even just having grodog's q/a on the item gives it several ++..) I think the historical notes on the campaign gave it a serious boost in price. I hope the winner will give out more details.
-Mike
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Post by Zenopus on Dec 16, 2016 22:24:27 GMT -6
Chirine Ba Kal (who used to post here) noted in a comment here that the Bill mentioned in the auction is Bill Hoyt, one of the original Blackmoor players and known by Gronan ( here's a pic of them together at Gary Con). This led me to find that Bill's students' pamphlet (included as an extra in the auction) was mentioned in The Strategic Review #3, Fall 1975. This was the precursor to Dragon magazine. It was in the column Mapping the Dungeons, which is uncredited but probably by Gary Gygax, who was the editor: "John Bobek and Bill Hoyt have used D&D as a teaching aid in grade school classes. Bill has a great little book of accounts of adventures and illustrations of monsters prepared by his 6th graders. Wish I’d have had such luck as a child..." |
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Post by MormonYoYoMan on Dec 17, 2016 2:11:39 GMT -6
In regards being a "1%er" and buying the rights to D&D, I paraphrase Robert Heinlein's comments about movie production.
(ahem) "If I had enough money to buy the rights to D&D, I would buy a gun to shoot the first person to try to get me to invest in a rolegame."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 13:18:24 GMT -6
I know some of those collectors. Many of them are Silicon Valley jillionaires with more money than sense.
I mentioned to one that I still had my brown box first printing from playing with Gary Gygax. He then started boasting about how many first printings he had from Gary's and Dave's players.
That's like bragging that you have the used condom from when some guys slept with Sophia Loren, but I have the used condom from when ** I ** slept with Sophia Loren.
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Post by kenmeister on Dec 19, 2016 9:02:27 GMT -6
Gronan you just won the thread.
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Post by grodog on Dec 20, 2016 12:07:15 GMT -6
Chirine Ba Kal (who used to post here) noted in a comment here that the Bill mentioned in the auction is Bill Hoyt, one of the original Blackmoor players and known by Gronan ( here's a pic of them together at Gary Con). This led me to find that Bill's students' pamphlet (included as an extra in the auction) was mentioned in The Strategic Review #3, Fall 1975. This was the precursor to Dragon magazine. It was in the column Mapping the Dungeons, which is uncredited but probably by Gary Gygax, who was the editor: "John Bobek and Bill Hoyt have used D&D as a teaching aid in grade school classes. Bill has a great little book of accounts of adventures and illustrations of monsters prepared by his 6th graders. Wish I’d have had such luck as a child..." That's cool, Zach, I'd not heard that info yet. Also good to hear some more context about Jan and Bill, too (thanks dragondaddy). Allan. |
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