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Post by kesher on Jul 14, 2016 11:09:07 GMT -6
Raise Your Kids like It's 1982As the father of three boys, ages 12 and 9 and 9, I found a lot to chew on in this article. It's also the first summer where, having gotten Moldvay Basic for my birthday in April, I spent more time playing D&D than anything else...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 11:36:32 GMT -6
I grew up in the 60's out in the country on a farm. I remember being 10 and going out on my bicycle with my cousin for about 14 hours on an all day ride and our parents didn't worry about it, because they knew there was nothing to fear.
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Post by Vile Traveller on Jul 15, 2016 0:19:28 GMT -6
1982 was a bad year for me because I spent the entire summer waiting for xmas, when my Moldvay Basic Set would finally arrive. None of this business of getting stuff when it wasn't xmas or your birthday back then. $2 a day? I could dream ...
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 19, 2016 7:56:15 GMT -6
[admin hat] The thread is back, minus the anger parts. I don't want to rehash the whole thing, but the timing of the thread causes some unintended consequences which I think are going to work themselves out now. Feel free to return to your regular discussion on the topic, minus the anger parts. [/admin hat]
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Post by DungeonDevil on Jul 19, 2016 12:25:52 GMT -6
I read the article swiftly, but failed to see how it is gamer-related. (puzzled face) The early 80s were a very hard time for my family, so it's hard for me to nostalgify it like some can. I prefer to wax nostalgic about the 70s, if I had the choice. (This anger-free post is brought to you by DungeonDevil, your friendly, laid-back monster from the lower planes of the Inferno.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 13:53:30 GMT -6
I read the article swiftly, but failed to see how it is gamer-related. (puzzled face) The early 80s were a very hard time for my family, so it's hard for me to nostalgify it like some can. I prefer to wax nostalgic about the 70s, if I had the choice. (This anger-free post is brought to you by DungeonDevil, your friendly, laid-back monster from the lower planes of the Inferno.) But you do have the choice!
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Post by kesher on Jul 19, 2016 13:57:59 GMT -6
I read the article swiftly, but failed to see how it is gamer-related. (puzzled face) The early 80s were a very hard time for my family, so it's hard for me to nostalgify it like some can. I prefer to wax nostalgic about the 70s, if I had the choice. (This anger-free post is brought to you by DungeonDevil, your friendly, laid-back monster from the lower planes of the Inferno.) Heh. I have plenty of nostalgia for the 70s, too, though through a different lens (as I was born in 1970.) It was only game-related in that, as mentioned, I got my first D&D set in 1982...
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Post by Vile Traveller on Jul 19, 2016 17:49:21 GMT -6
In contrast to my first post, the last week of '82 was pretty d**n good for me because I spent every waking moment playing or reading Moldvay, and casting and painting minis. And when I slept, I dreamt about it.
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Post by kesher on Jul 19, 2016 19:56:44 GMT -6
Casting minis? I wanna hear more about that!
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Post by Vile Traveller on Jul 20, 2016 9:50:47 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 15:54:00 GMT -6
I bought a painted high elf#2 at a shop in Dublin three years ago. The guy behind the counter tried to sell me on some moulds but I passed. It looks like fun, but I already have more hobbies than I can keep up with.
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Post by Vile Traveller on Jul 20, 2016 18:06:18 GMT -6
Dublin was where I got my moulds. Didn't start buying actual precast minis until we moved to England. My first purchase was a set of 15mm Traveller adventurers. After that I started thinking in mini currency. McDonald's? that's 2 minis. Shoes? that's 10 minis.
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Post by xerxez on Jul 20, 2016 20:55:07 GMT -6
I can remember those days well. I think my mom was a little crazy, though-- At seven and eight I was walking to the store on my own some five blocks away. Had run of the neighbourhood until early sunset. Turned 11 in 1982 and lived as described in the article. From 12 on I was a latchkey kid and off and on had to watch my little brother 6 years junior, but often he was in daycare and I was free to roam. Got into teens and my curfew was well after ten, later if I had permission or could let Mom know where I was.
I got into a lot of trouble...I will say that one thing mom did, in spite of giving me such a long range, was watch my friends closely. She was pretty quick to weed out the people she thought were delinquents or real trouble and she was mostly right. I found it difficult to stay friends with them since she would forbid my hanging out with them, staying the night, etc. She also searched my room and spied on me and my goings on occasionally...like driving back around to a spot she'd dropped me off to see if I was going where I said or on my way down the street to something else.
I raised my own kids in a very strict environment, but I regret that a bit.
Now as a step parent, I watch my wife helicopter parent. And I watch with amazement as her oldest spends her summer on the couch watching Netflix and playing video games. I say this not critically but remembering my summer vacations when I would ride my bike or walk to the ends of the earth, hang out with friends, go to movies, play street football or have all night D&D games. I loved lazing on the couch but that was for night time and then only if I had cool VHS movies or something was on HBO.
My wife is dumbfounded at the liberty my mother gave me, and I have to agree that sometimes it was not wise. But it was fun, and I lived.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 6:18:11 GMT -6
I know what you mean, I never had a curfew ever and never once was questioned about what I was doing and my parents were very strict otherwise.
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Post by rsdean on Jul 21, 2016 9:31:27 GMT -6
I bought a painted high elf#2 at a shop in Dublin three years ago. The guy behind the counter tried to sell me on some moulds but I passed. It looks like fun, but I already have more hobbies than I can keep up with. I'm a big fan of Prince August molds; if we want to start a separate casting thread, I'll be there. I got my latest batches of metal delivered, by tracking down an alloy supplier online. (Nathan Trotter and Co., for those in the US).
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Post by rsdean on Jul 21, 2016 14:39:15 GMT -6
This does seem a little tangential to gaming, but ...
Actual 1982 was the year I moved away from home to start my first post-college job; I don't view the year with any particular nostalgia. I did track down some gamers, and my gaming buddies did a road trip down from Michigan that summer to attend Origins, so it wasn't a dead year for games.
But as far as free-range childhoods went, my teen years in the '70s were pretty easy going. We would head out for a biking day and visit the hobby shop or whatever, without any need to report in, and from 1976 on spent lots of unsupervised time in the basement playing D&D and other games.
I tried to give my kids as much of that as I could, but the cultural pressure was certainly against it, and we lived in a small town at the time where they couldn't get much of anywhere interesting or useful on a bicycle, so that wasn't much use to them either. They both ended up getting drivers licenses around college graduation, which was partly overprotection, and partly the fact that my state has one of the two or three most strenuous regimens for licensing in the country. (Maryland; Colorado requires an equal amount of logged driving time, New Jersey has a high learner's permit minimum age.)
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Post by kesher on Jul 21, 2016 14:50:53 GMT -6
I bought a painted high elf#2 at a shop in Dublin three years ago. The guy behind the counter tried to sell me on some moulds but I passed. It looks like fun, but I already have more hobbies than I can keep up with. I'm a big fan of Prince August molds; if we want to start a separate casting thread, I'll be there. I got my latest batches of metal delivered, by tracking down an alloy supplier online. (Nathan Trotter and Co., for those in the US). I'd love to see a casting thread!
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Post by derv on Jul 21, 2016 19:28:07 GMT -6
I'm a big fan of Prince August molds; if we want to start a separate casting thread, I'll be there. I got my latest batches of metal delivered, by tracking down an alloy supplier online. (Nathan Trotter and Co., for those in the US). I'd love to see a casting thread! I'd be up for a Prince August lead head thread. If someone starts it off, I'll share some pics. For those in the states, I've bought a bunch of molds from The Dunken Company
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Post by Chainsaw on Jul 22, 2016 18:32:50 GMT -6
Great thread! Thanks Kesher.
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Post by Vile Traveller on Jul 23, 2016 5:09:21 GMT -6
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