Looking for Supplement V - need help

[Lorgalis]

Can not seem to find the original Carcosa supplement. Does anyone have a copy? A PDF? Would like to read it and understand better this dark world.

Many Thanks.

[dizzysaxophone]

I've been trying to find one for quite a long time myself too. Will let you know if I do!

[cadriel]

nobleknight.com has the expanded Lamentations of the Flame Princess version - my understanding (I have the original) is that this contains everything from the unexpurgated edition, plus new material, I think a chunk of it expanding the hexcrawl.

[geoffrey]

May 15, 2013 21:45:38 GMT -6 cadriel said:

nobleknight.com has the expanded Lamentations of the Flame Princess version - my understanding (I have the original) is that this contains everything from the unexpurgated edition, plus new material, I think a chunk of it expanding the hexcrawl.

Exactly so.

The textual differences between the two printings are exceedingly minor, virtually unnoticable. You can use either printing of Carcosa with any old-school rules set with no problems. The only two major textual changes are not changes per se but rather additions:

1. The LotFP publication has two points of interest for each of the map's 400 hexes, rather than only one (as in the earlier printing). Thus in the LotFP printing you get 800 points of interest rather than 400. In other words, you get the original 400 points of interest plus 400 more.

2. The LotFP publication includes within its covers the beginning module Fungoid Gardens of the Bone Sorcerer. This module is like Carcosa's B2: It gives you a starting home base, several wilderness encounters within a few miles, and a cavern complex. All, of course, Carcosa-style. The original printing didn't include this module.

[Finarvyn]

I find the original Carcosa to be cool because:
(1) It has a historical significance, as it was one of the early "modern OD&D" type products.
(2) It came out in "nasty" and "safe" versions.
(3) It found enough interest here on these boards to be one of the first groups to get their own section here.

The LotFP version is, as I understand it "better" but I love the early versions of most stuff and kind of wish the old one was still out there, warts and all.

Just my two cents.

[paulg]

May 15, 2013 21:45:38 GMT -6 cadriel said:

nobleknight.com has the expanded Lamentations of the Flame Princess version - my understanding (I have the original) is that this contains everything from the unexpurgated edition, plus new material, I think a chunk of it expanding the hexcrawl.

The one thing I miss in the wonderful LotFP edition is the alignment table found on page 8 of the original. The alignment information is in the LotFP edition, of course, but I find the imbalance of the chart an effective visualization. And it's a nice link to Men & Magic.



(Hopefully, Geoffrey doesn't mind me posting this. I'll remove the image if requested.)

[dizzysaxophone]

I have the LotFP version and love it! That said. I'd love to have a digest sized version of the original to go into my 2nd OD&D box I made. Box 1 is for Chainmail, lbbs, and Greyhawk, and Box 2 holds Supplement 2-4 & 6-7. I'm missing 5!

[strangebrew]

I'm with Fin. There's a bit of a backlash in the OSR against products that mimic the look of the original material, like Sup. V did, but I'm admittedly a sucker for such things as long as they're done well.

There was a Carcosa pdf floating around awhile ago, don't ask me where because I don't remember. If you do manage to find it, I doubt Geoffrey would care if you have already bought the LotFP version. It would be nice if LoFP buyers could download a pdf of the original, but such things are out of everyone's hands (Geoff included).

[kesher]

It's good to remember that if you do manage to get ahold of the original, you can get the Fungoid Gardens cheaply in the PDF or printed version of Fight On! Magazine #4.

[geoffrey]

Keep the alignment chart there, paulg. That's cool.