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Post by calithena on Apr 28, 2008 5:59:10 GMT -6
Issue #1 is now only $6. Thanks (and apologies) to people who bought it at the higher price.
Until we settle into a groove there are going to be occasional things like this with page count, price, distribution avenues, etc.
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Post by greyharp on Apr 28, 2008 8:01:38 GMT -6
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Post by redpriest on Apr 28, 2008 9:40:32 GMT -6
I didn't have a problem with the original price. I mean, with already possessing a set of LBBs & 1e books, and not being a collector, it's not like there's a lot else new out there competing for my gaming dollars. DF stuff is free, and I buy modules in PDF when available.
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Post by Finarvyn on Apr 28, 2008 10:39:29 GMT -6
I think that the secret will be to RAISE the price again once we get prople hooked. You just KNOW that #1 will be a collector's item and we'll want people to pay for it.... :-)
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Post by coffee on Apr 28, 2008 11:10:07 GMT -6
I think that the secret will be to RAISE the price again once we get prople hooked. You just KNOW that #1 will be a collector's item and we'll want people to pay for it.... :-) But don't raise it until #2 goes on sale... |
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Post by philotomy on Apr 28, 2008 22:19:23 GMT -6
I think most of the people who post, here, are OD&D enthusiasts, and were so happy to see current OD&D support in a print magaine that they had no problem with the original price (certainly I thought the price was reasonable, was happy with my purchase, and had no misgivings or regrets). Nevertheless, there was definitely some grumbling over price (and lack of PDF) out there, though, so I see this as a good move.
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Post by calithena on Apr 29, 2008 6:35:39 GMT -6
Thanks philotomy.
What this is actually about is that we want print to be as competitive with pdf as possible price-wise, to get people to buy print copies, but we just don't feel good charging more than $3 for a 30 page PDF. (We had intended to charge $1 but then we thought, if we do that, no-one will ever buy the print version again once the PDF goes on sale.) So the only thing left is to lower the price on the print edition, which we have very limited leeway to do, but some. And if we're going to lower the price on the print edition when the PDF comes out we might as well do it now.
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Post by kesher on Apr 29, 2008 9:00:10 GMT -6
What?? I want a refund! Anyhoo, this is great news; might it be worthwhile to post this price reduction in relevant places? I think the $3/$6 pdf/print ratio is perfect. You're right that if the pdf was only $1, it would eat into print purchases, but really wouldn't increase the chance that the purchaser would actually read what they'd bought. Someone who REALLY only wants a pdf (which I find strange, but then I'm old) will now feel that important-to-actually-reading-the-thing sense of value, while I can't imagine even a sceptic balking at $6 for the print version. Also, Cal, you and Iggy are expanding the size, too, right? So, how much is a 48 pg rag gonna cost? |
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Post by calithena on Apr 29, 2008 9:17:28 GMT -6
If we went all the way to 48 it would cost 6.75, roughly. I think we'll see how that goes, I definitely want to push at least into the high thirties but we'll see how many submissions we get and how long they are. I think 48 is a realistic upper limit for me in terms of work, at least unless someone submits a page-eating megadungeon (which we'd be happy to publish btw).
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Post by busman on Apr 29, 2008 9:52:15 GMT -6
Kobold Quarterly is 6.99 for the PDF and 7.99 for the print version, it's roughly 64 pages these days.
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Post by James Maliszewski on Apr 29, 2008 11:08:21 GMT -6
Kobold Quarterly is 6.99 for the PDF and 7.99 for the print version, it's roughly 64 pages these days. has the advantage of subscriptions, as well as being printed by more traditional means, so the prices can be kept lower. I would assume that if we had the benefit of guaranteed income through subscriptions and didn't use Lulu.com, we could probably keep the prices lower. All in good time ... |
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Post by busman on Apr 29, 2008 11:17:50 GMT -6
Kobold Quarterly is 6.99 for the PDF and 7.99 for the print version, it's roughly 64 pages these days. has the advantage of subscriptions, as well as being printed by more traditional means, so the prices can be kept lower. I would assume that if we had the benefit of guaranteed income through subscriptions and didn't use Lulu.com, we could probably keep the prices lower. All in good time ... Hmm, I should have made my point more clearly, my bad. They charge nearly as much for the PDF as they do the print version. Our cost from Lulu won't be significantly above 7.99, even at 64 pages, I think the pre-shipping cost would be less than 7.99 for sure. What I'm saying is, don't be afraid to jack the PDF price up to be comparable to buying the print version. |
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Post by James Maliszewski on Apr 29, 2008 11:21:04 GMT -6
What I'm saying is, don't be afraid to jack the PDF price up to be comparable to buying the print version. Yes, absolutely. That seems to be the way most publishers do it nowadays, no doubt to encourage the purchase of printed copies. I'm all for that in the case of Fight On! It just seems wrong to have electronic versions of it, though I grant that not every old schooler is as much of a Luddite as I am |
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Post by calithena on Apr 29, 2008 11:35:31 GMT -6
Huh. Well, Ig & me don't mind the extra money, and maybe we could use some of it to license Frazetta or Otus covers or something down the road, if people really buy the pdf. But, this is supposed to be a labor of love/fanzine kind of thing, and the last thing we want is for anyone to plunk down say $5 for a PDF and then feel ripped off. Also when you start pushing down a little I think you get more 'impulse buy' purchases.
Anyway, all our pricing decisions are always going to be made in terms of supporting the magazine's goals. I think PDFs will start showing up sooner or later regardless so we might as well sell them, and for a while at least it will be a good way to promote the mag to a broader audience.
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Post by James Maliszewski on Apr 29, 2008 11:39:10 GMT -6
Anyway, all our pricing decisions are always going to be made in terms of supporting the magazine's goals. I think PDFs will start showing up sooner or later regardless so we might as well sell them, and for a while at least it will be a good way to promote the mag to a broader audience. I think this makes perfect sense. You've got a good handle on what the 'zine is, what it could be, and how best to proceed. I certainly trust your instincts and judgment here and I'm sure the rest of us do as well. So, as ever, take us backseat editors and publishers only as seriously as you wish. We're just tossing out ideas and considering possibilities; it's what gamers do, after all. |
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Post by coffee on Apr 29, 2008 11:57:42 GMT -6
We're just tossing out ideas and considering possibilities; it's what gamers do, after all. It is, indeed. In fact, if we didn't, we wouldn't have a fanzine at all. |
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