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Post by calithena on Apr 21, 2008 20:15:12 GMT -6
Issue #2 will be dedicated to Dave Arneson.
I am working on tracking down some articles on Dave and the way he runs games, because there is some very important stuff a lot of you know but which I'd like to get in print.
I am looking for a good B&W picture of Dave that we can use on the dedication page and also a quotation that sums up his approach to gaming and running games as well as possible. I sold my copy of FFC to Egg of Coot a while back so I don't have much to work with here, but it could really be from anything.
If you have a good picture email it to iggyumlaut@gmail.com; if you want to suggest quotations or other ideas, please reply to this thread! Thanks!
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Post by Melan on Apr 22, 2008 0:57:17 GMT -6
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to go with the recently passed Bob Bledsaw?
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Post by calithena on Apr 22, 2008 6:17:00 GMT -6
Issue #1 contains a note that says Issue #3 will be dedicated to Bob, which also makes sense for historical reasons. There are some other considerations as well which we can talk about over email if you're interested.
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Post by Melan on Apr 22, 2008 6:21:57 GMT -6
All right. Drop me a PM/mail if it is of interest.
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Post by geoffrey on Apr 22, 2008 7:47:50 GMT -6
When I saw the title of this thread I feared that Dave Arneson had died, too. Thank goodness that's not the case.
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Post by dekelia on Apr 22, 2008 8:06:29 GMT -6
My favorite Dave Arneson quote I heard somewhere (you'll have to track down the actual quote - I think someone has it as their sig either here or Dragon's foot) was something like, "if you don't entertain your DM, your DM will be forced to entertain himself, usually at your expense." Made me laugh and is soooo true.  |
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Post by Finarvyn on Apr 22, 2008 8:32:53 GMT -6
Issue #1 contains a note that says Issue #3 will be dedicated to Bob, which also makes sense for historical reasons. There are some other considerations as well which we can talk about over email if you're interested. I think this is a good pattern. Gygax and Arneson deserve to be the dedications for issues 1 & 2 because of their contribution to the genesis of the game. It would be nice to generate a list of people for dedication in future issues -- individuals who have contributed to the success of OD&D at the start. |
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Post by calithena on Apr 22, 2008 8:42:58 GMT -6
I definitely want to honor Dave Hargrave, Lee Gold, and M.A.R. Barker. Jim Ward, Steve Perrin, Greg Stafford, Ken St. Andre, Dennis Sustare, the Little Soldier guys, Pete & Judy Kerestan, and some others come to mind as possibilities too.
More immediately I could use help with the Arneson quotation and photo though.
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Post by coffee on Apr 22, 2008 9:09:18 GMT -6
You'll probably want to get around to Tim Kask, who took over editorial duties on The Strategic Review and then was the original editor of The Dragon. But probably after the people you mentioned above.
Also Rob Kuntz, co-author of Supplement I: Greyhawk.
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Post by calithena on Apr 22, 2008 9:29:13 GMT -6
Both good calls and names I've thought of before.
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Post by settembrini on Apr 22, 2008 10:10:40 GMT -6
How about Dave Weseley?
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Post by foster1941 on Apr 22, 2008 10:40:21 GMT -6
Will Niebling is another good choice for a later issue.
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Post by darneson on May 26, 2008 21:02:39 GMT -6
Dave Arneson quote
"if you don't entertain your DM, your DM will be forced to entertain himself, and how will they do that?"
"If I change a rule that makes it official."
"Don't ask me what you need to hit. Just roll the die and I will let you know."
"What! You got a mule full of monster stats?)
(Several variants on that one.)
Dave Arneson
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Post by darneson on May 26, 2008 21:09:00 GMT -6
I would say Bob Kuntz next. He did most of the GMing in Greyhawk. Then Barker (his world preceded D&D by a couple decades). Then Lee Gold for the first fanzine.
Dave Arneson
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Post by dwayanu on May 26, 2008 21:58:46 GMT -6
Lee Gold is a nifty honoree for an old-school paper fanzine coming from "APA v4" (a.k.a the Web)! Alarums & Excursions has a page here! |
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Post by calithena on May 27, 2008 6:27:51 GMT -6
Dave Arneson, welcome, welcome welcome to the boards and thread! I found a nice quotation of yours on the 'castle blackmoor' site that I thought I might use, I can send it to you if you'd like to comment.
We have a couple articles about your GMing style from people who have played with you and if you'd like to comment on those, we'd love to hear what you have to say.
We'd also be interested in interviewing you for the magazine, if you think you have time. Phone or by computer.
Also, if you have any articles on Blackmoor, Adventures in Fantasy, anything you're working on now, you'd like to see in print with us, just send it along. Our authors retain ownership of everything they submit and all rights to it except the right for us to publish it in the form it's originally published in the issue it's originally published in in perpetuity. So anything you send us would still be yours. That would go for the interview too, we'd publish it, but it would be your interview to use or re-use as you like.
Anyway, great to see you here. My email is calithena@gmail.com if you'd like to discuss things more privately.
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As far as future dedications go, all the people mentioned here are good choices. Order I think will depend on the inspiration of the moment, though we're locked in for #3. Order of publication will not try to sort out 'who did what first' though, that's a hornet's nest and undoubtedly there are different honest answers to these sorts of questions.
Lee Gold is a central figure in the development of D&D and RPGing more generally and I think she deserves to be better known.
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Post by kevinmayle on Jun 8, 2008 7:34:58 GMT -6
Geez, I'm probably too late, but in case I'm not, this is my Temple of the Frog picture that I think would go great in a book dedicated to Mr. Arneson. kevinmayle.netaidz.com/v/Fantasy/Frog+King.jpg.htmlIf you can use it, let me know and I'll e-mail you the high-res version. Thanks. |
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Post by havard on Jun 8, 2008 8:12:33 GMT -6
Geez, I'm probably too late, but in case I'm not, this is my Temple of the Frog picture that I think would go great in a book dedicated to Mr. Arneson. kevinmayle.netaidz.com/v/Fantasy/Frog+King.jpg.htmlIf you can use it, let me know and I'll e-mail you the high-res version. Thanks. Kevin, thanks for reminding me about that picture. It is beautiful! Calithena, if you haven't already, feel free to scavenge my website for stuff on Dave and Blackmoor. There are some pictures there, though most of them also appear elsewhere on the web, so there might not be much new in that regard. Havard |
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Post by calithena on Jun 8, 2008 18:16:20 GMT -6
Kevin - do you have a black and white or greyscaled version of that? If so, I'll use it. It takes a while to assemble these issues, and the DA stuff is in the middle, so if you could get me that in the next week or so it would work. Thanks!
Havard, is all that stuff on your website yours?
Thanks to both of you!
Dave Arneson, if you're reading this thread, I'm going to send you some questions soon. If you have an email you check more regularly than these boards it would be useful if you could send it to me via PM, and we can talk by email or phone according to your convenience.
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Post by havard on Jun 9, 2008 14:21:04 GMT -6
Havard, is all that stuff on your website yours? Articles, where no other credit is given is all written by me. The Gallery and Downloads sections are a bit more sloppy when it comes to credits. I will try to remedy that. The downloads are mainly links to WotC and other companies' sites with downloads so none of those are mine. Havard |
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Post by kevinmayle on Jun 11, 2008 11:29:10 GMT -6
Kevin - do you have a black and white or greyscaled version of that? If so, I'll use it. It takes a while to assemble these issues, and the DA stuff is in the middle, so if you could get me that in the next week or so it would work. Thanks! Oh good! I'll e-mail it to you tonight. |
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Post by calithena on Jun 11, 2008 12:02:30 GMT -6
Great!
Jeff Rients also did a nice job greyscaling your original for me, so one of the two will go in for sure.
Thanks!
Cal
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