oldkat
Level 6 Magician
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Post by oldkat on Nov 17, 2012 13:29:28 GMT -6
In perusing my GH pdf I was stunned to see DEX described as benefiting only the Fighting Man in melee. For each point above 14 he decreases his opponents chance to hit him by 5% (essentially, 15 -1 to AC, 16 -2 to AC, 17 -3 to AC, 18 -4 to AC on the AC/Combat tables of 1E)
Am I not seeing this correctly? Did I miss something hidden elsewhere?
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Post by makofan on Nov 17, 2012 13:35:48 GMT -6
Yes, this is usually ignored but I like it. You can see with exceptional strength, and dexterity bonuses, and d8 vs d4, that Gary must have thought fighters were severely underpowered vs magic users
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Post by Zenopus on Nov 17, 2012 15:44:08 GMT -6
makofan: not just exceptional* strength - any strength bonus. In Greyhawk by-the-book, fighters are the only ones that get any strength bonuses, and it has to be the original unadjusted strength. Strength penalties, however, are applied to any character.
Holmes may have left out the strength and dexterity bonuses out of Basic since he was trying to simplify the rules and they only apply to fighters. He used the constitution bonuses from Greyhawk which are applied to all classes.
*Greyhawk uses "exceptional strength" for 18 STR (and possibly 13-17 STR) and "extraordinary strength" for the 18/%. So perhaps you were referring to STR 13+, but I just wanted to clarify this because most use "exceptional" for 18/%, per the AD&D PHB.
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Post by makofan on Nov 18, 2012 15:14:00 GMT -6
@zenopus I agree, I was being a bit terse (I hate typing!) so therefore a bit unclear
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