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Post by owlorbs on Jul 3, 2012 15:57:23 GMT -6
The Scrolls of Lankhmar were the closest thing to a Nehwon encyclopedia outside of the AD&D Cities of Adventure books. Does anyone know where they've gone off to? Can't find them in the wayback machine.
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 4, 2012 7:01:34 GMT -6
No, but I might have copied a lot of their stuff into a Word doc. I'll have to look around the dusty innards of my hard drive...
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 4, 2012 7:14:08 GMT -6
The guy who did the Scrolls claims that he is closing his blog and moving everything to a wiki. I didn't see a link to the new site, but here's where I found the "blog closing" thing.... scrollsoflankhmar.com/blog_archive/
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Post by owlorbs on Jul 4, 2012 7:48:24 GMT -6
Ah, I see the wiki link at the top right of his blog, but unfortunately it goes nowhere.
Nice move copying it to a word doc, I wish I would have done so, let us know if it turns up. It's a shame there was never an official published "Guide to Nehwon" like we have the "Guide to Barsoom" or the "Dune Encyclopedia."
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 4, 2012 8:00:03 GMT -6
Not finding it so far. I have some older archives where I might have stashed it. I agree it would be a shame to have it lost, and I was getting the same "does not exist" problem with the wiki link.
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Post by derv on Jul 4, 2012 8:54:30 GMT -6
Thanks for posting this. I never came across this site before. shame he closed his blog, but it appears as if his older entries are still there. Or has some of the content disappeared? I just gave it a quick run through and noticed some good ideas for magic in Nehwon.
oh okay, his last(first) post (May 2009) mentions the Nehwon Gazetteer and its a dead link. That's probably what you're looking for.
I'm now curious about the content of the Gazetteer. maybe someone could dig into contacting the guy and let him know there are still some interested fans of his work.
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 4, 2012 9:20:47 GMT -6
I found some files, which I believe to be from the "Scrolls of Lankhmar" site. I'll be posting some of this stuff soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2012 2:06:26 GMT -6
Archived websites are always hit and miss but you can always try the original.
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Post by derv on Jul 5, 2012 15:31:52 GMT -6
The guys name is Charles Fewlass and there is a contact e-mail address on Austros wayback machine link. I didn't try contacting him with it though, so I don't know if it's active anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2012 17:13:06 GMT -6
I went through the archived site last night (and copied everything into a Word doc) and found that the only link that didn't work was a large map. It may just be a server error and so I'll try it again today.
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Post by kent on Jul 5, 2012 19:21:50 GMT -6
What an excellent blog that was. I never heard of it before.
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Post by owlorbs on Jul 6, 2012 15:28:13 GMT -6
I went through the archived site last night (and copied everything into a Word doc) and found that the only link that didn't work was a large map. It may just be a server error and so I'll try it again today. Austro, that's excellent. When I tried originally I couldn't get any of them to open. Looks like I need to try again. edit: Okay, I still can't seem to find anything on these pages, is there a trick to it? Also, I sent an email to fewlass@tca.net and it failed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2012 16:56:10 GMT -6
Okay, I still can't seem to find anything on these pages, is there a trick to it? I thought that at first and then realised the text was there, just not visible. Hold the right mouse button down and select the text and it becomes visible. If you're still having problems owlorbs let me know and I'll email or post the Word doc, although I suspect Finarvyn already has all the text from the site. Dave
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 6, 2012 19:15:47 GMT -6
Hopefully, these threads will be enough of a start to get a Nehwon/Lankhmar campaign underway.
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 6, 2012 19:23:53 GMT -6
Also worth noting is that I grouped some topics under the "City of Lankhmar" thread. Guilds of Lankhmar Places of Lankhmar Streets of Lankhmar
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Post by owlorbs on Jul 8, 2012 21:39:03 GMT -6
I contacted Charles and he's got the scrolls up and running and has added a forum there as well. scrollsoflankhmar.com/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2012 22:16:56 GMT -6
Well done owlorbs, Exalt! Now to go register on the forum.
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 9, 2012 4:54:17 GMT -6
I contacted Charles and he's got the scrolls up and running and has added a forum there as well. scrollsoflankhmar.com/Awesome, although that means that all of the work I did on this over the past couple of days is basically wasted. Good work!
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Post by owlorbs on Jul 9, 2012 8:20:54 GMT -6
It doesn't hurt to have it in more than one place! It's nice to have it here as well.
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Post by derv on Jul 9, 2012 16:30:19 GMT -6
good job owlorbs!
Fin, I think they're good to have here as reference also.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2012 17:35:33 GMT -6
Yes, since the scrolls have disappeared once they may do so again. A back up is always good. Plus this forum will no doubt remain more active than the new one on the Scrolls site.
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 9, 2012 18:53:41 GMT -6
And remember that if anyone finds anything missing or incorrect to post in the proper thread and I can update it. The Scrolls seem pretty complete to me, but you never know what folks might spot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 21:50:25 GMT -6
Hello and well met from the Scrolls! Wow! I didn't know this corner of the web existed. I'm glad to see that there are more folks out there keeping Lankhmar alive. I'm going to have to check out what you got here. Well, I have to apologize for letting the Scrolls of Lankhmar disappear for the last month. But now it is back up. I was trying to update the software and didn't realize that the custom template did not work anymore. As I was always signed in via a cookie, everything looked fine to me, but all other visitors were getting an error message. My domain name expires in September and I was this close to closing down the site for good or giving it away. I posted as such on the main page. I did have one guy who offered to buy the site from me and as he used to run a horror bookstore he seemed perfect to continue the site. I was going to give it to him for free, but then he stopped responding to my emails and that deal feel through. Then I got an email from owlorbs wondering where the site went. I hadn't heard from anyone interested in Lankhmar for years and I guess I just figured no-one cared anymore. After owlorbs email, I got the site back up and running and I added a message board. I was surprised when austrodavicus registered almost immediately. Long story short, I'm now re-invigorated to add new material and get the site looking sharp. I've been working on a new look for the last couple of days and now I just added a contributors guide. Oh yeah, my Nehwon name generator is back up and running again. Finarvyn, don't worry about your work being wasted. It's good to have this material mirrored. I make it plain that everything is under a Creative Commons share-alike attribute non-commercial license. In other words, copy what you want for your own purposes or the web. OK, I've probably talked long enough. I hope folks will come by and check out the Scrolls and maybe even help with the expansions. And meanwhile, I'll be keeping an ear out here and staying in touch. Thanks, Charles (Srith of the Scrolls) scrollsoflankhmar.com
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Post by owlorbs on Jul 12, 2012 0:32:00 GMT -6
Welcome aboard Charles!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 4:04:29 GMT -6
Yes, welcome to the forum Charles. Whenever your domain name needs renewing you could always consider allowing people to throw in a couple of bucks via PayPal to keep the site alive. It wouldn't take many folks giving to do that and I reckon there'd be more than enough just here in this forum.
Dave
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 12, 2012 4:51:33 GMT -6
Hello and well met from the Scrolls! Hail, and well met to you also! Wow! I didn't know this corner of the web existed. I'm glad to see that there are more folks out there keeping Lankhmar alive. I'm going to have to check out what you got here. I don't know what you know about the early versions of Dungeons & Dragons, but Leiber had some strong connections to TSR in the 1970's. Until recently, that had been the focus of our Lankhmar discussion. Leiber co-authored a board game (called "Lankhmar") in 1976 and wrote a couple of articles/stories for Dragon magazine. That's where I first heard of him. He also appears in lists of major literary inspiration for D&D. Long story short, I'm now re-invigorated to add new material and get the site looking sharp. I've been working on a new look for the last couple of days and now I just added a contributors guide. Oh yeah, my Nehwon name generator is back up and running again. Glad to see you up and running again. You can't imaging the grief we had when it was realized that the Scrolls had vanished, and the effort I went through trying to search for old stuff I had saved years ago from your pages. Finarvyn, don't worry about your work being wasted. It's good to have this material mirrored. I make it plain that everything is under a Creative Commons share-alike attribute non-commercial license. In other words, copy what you want for your own purposes or the web. The main thing for me is that you wrote it and I felt guilty about "stealing" the material. That's why I started each thread with my bold red statement about its origin. Again, welcome to our little corner of the web. Hopefully you'll find some threads worth reading and you can contribute to some of our discussions on Nehwon and other topics!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 17:16:16 GMT -6
Yes, welcome to the forum Charles. Whenever your domain name needs renewing you could always consider allowing people to throw in a couple of bucks via PayPal to keep the site alive. It wouldn't take many folks giving to do that and I reckon there'd be more than enough just here in this forum. Dave Hey Dave, Thanks. My apologies though, I didn't mean to imply that money was an issue. It was more of a matter of timing. I hadn't made an update to the Scrolls in over a year, and it has been many, many years since I've made significant additions. I just got to a point where I didn't want the site to languish in neglect. As for myself, my interests have mostly moved on to other things and I have lacked the inspiration to add anymore good material. I find writing difficult enough as it is without having the addition difficulty of lack of motivation. Don't get me wrong--I still love the series and all of Leiber's writings, It's just that my head hasn't been into it. Despite all of that, I'm renewing my efforts. I think that I've decided that this project is too important now to abandon. Awareness of Leiber is on the decline. Also it seems that the Scrolls has more of an audience than I had realized. So wish me luck, I'm going to keep pushing forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 17:26:34 GMT -6
OK, thanks for clarifying that Charles. So it sounds like what would really help you is for people to read the books and take notes?
The series is on my short list for a re-read and I'd be happy to do just that as I go through them. Different people have different ideas about what is "important", so even with just a few people doing this it should be an easy matter of picking out all the fluff for the scrolls.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 17:28:47 GMT -6
Finarvyn said:I don't know what you know about the early versions of Dungeons & Dragons, but Leiber had some strong connections to TSR in the 1970's. Until recently, that had been the focus of our Lankhmar discussion. Leiber co-authored a board game (called "Lankhmar") in 1976 and wrote a couple of articles/stories for Dragon magazine. That's where I first heard of him. He also appears in lists of major literary inspiration for D&D. I started playing D&D back around 1981/82 with the basic and expert sets and then with 1st Ed. AD&D. It wasn't until college that I discovered Lankhmar and read all of the stories. It didn't take long before I started running a Lankhmar campaign for my friends and buying up every Lankhmar D&D product in existence. Glad to see you up and running again. You can't imaging the grief we had when it was realized that the Scrolls had vanished, and the effort I went through trying to search for old stuff I had saved years ago from your pages. Again, sorry about that. The existence of the Scrolls have shared much in common with the Sinking Lands. A little unpredictable, it sometimes disappears beneath the waves not to be seen for stretches at a time. But then it bubbles back above the surface once again, ready for the wary, internet traveler. The main thing for me is that you wrote it and I felt guilty about "stealing" the material. That's why I started each thread with my bold red statement about its origin. No worries there. You included the attribution, which is great. Again, welcome to our little corner of the web. Hopefully you'll find some threads worth reading and you can contribute to some of our discussions on Nehwon and other topics! Glad to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 17:35:09 GMT -6
OK, thanks for clarifying that Charles. So it sounds like what would really help you is for people to read the books and take notes? The series is on my short list for a re-read and I'd be happy to do just that as I go through them. Different people have different ideas about what is "important", so even with just a few people doing this it should be an easy matter of picking out all the fluff for the scrolls. Thanks, that would be great. To be perfectly blunt, what would help me is folks getting involved and helping to expand the Scrolls. I think that is what you were getting at.
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