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Post by geoffrey on Feb 11, 2012 18:33:59 GMT -6
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Post by jmccann on Feb 11, 2012 23:14:49 GMT -6
Wow.
That is a pretty interesting document. I will certainly be snapping it up soon after release.
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Post by elf23 on Feb 12, 2012 6:56:51 GMT -6
Yes I was also wondering about the differences between the unreleased version and the TSR version.
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Post by ckutalik on Feb 13, 2012 17:03:56 GMT -6
I got a run down on some of the changes, likely will put it up as a blog post later or tomorrow.
Interestingly it will be a double paged PDF with the original copy on the left and a crisp OCR reading on the right.
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Post by Finarvyn on Feb 14, 2012 5:07:07 GMT -6
I really want this. If for no other reason, then just to see the history of the game.
I knew that Barker had some version of his game before TSR got ahold of it, and I suspect that it got OD&D-ized a little so that folks at the time would understand it faster and most likely to improve on the mechanic. It will be interesting to see what the original looked like.
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Post by geoffrey on Feb 20, 2012 9:27:01 GMT -6
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Post by ckutalik on Feb 20, 2012 10:08:27 GMT -6
Jakallan Underworld is the next project release. Now how cool is that?
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Post by ckutalik on Feb 20, 2012 10:21:25 GMT -6
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Post by geoffrey on Feb 20, 2012 11:21:36 GMT -6
Jakallan Underworld is the next project release. Now how cool is that?   That's my single-most desired RPG product. |
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Post by kesher on Feb 20, 2012 14:36:16 GMT -6
I've seen those maps---they are simply unbelievable...
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Post by Finarvyn on Feb 20, 2012 20:15:27 GMT -6
When this is released for certain, I hope someone gives us a "ping" here. (Or, if one can pre-order this.) I really want to supplement my 1975 boxed set with a pre-box rules set!
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ralph
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Post by ralph on Feb 21, 2012 2:24:49 GMT -6
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Post by Morandir on Feb 21, 2012 14:38:29 GMT -6
I'll definitely be picking up the POD version when it's released. This is excellent news!
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Post by badger2305 on Feb 22, 2012 8:13:46 GMT -6
It's nice to know that people like this.  |
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Post by geoffrey on Feb 22, 2012 9:24:39 GMT -6
Victor, do you know the answers to these two questions?
1. Who made the changes? Prof. Barker, or the people at TSR?
2. Did Prof. Barker consider the 1975 rulebook an improvement over the 1974 rulebook, or did he look at the 1975 rulebook as an unfortunate concession to the desires of TSR?
Regardless of the answers, I'm going to buy the POD when it is released. ;D
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Post by badger2305 on Feb 22, 2012 14:51:26 GMT -6
Victor, do you know the answers to these two questions? 1. Who made the changes? Prof. Barker, or the people at TSR? 2. Did Prof. Barker consider the 1975 rulebook an improvement over the 1974 rulebook, or did he look at the 1975 rulebook as an unfortunate concession to the desires of TSR? Regardless of the answers, I'm going to buy the POD when it is released. ;D Well, the answer to both questions is mixed. For the first one, Phil made a number of changes, and it appears that Gary and/or other people at TSR re-arranged the text to more closely conform to the structure of Original D&D. As for the second question, Phil was pleased with the TSR version, but I have no idea if whether or not he thought of it as an "improvement" - I think he was just happy to see it in print. Sorry to not be more clear about it all! |
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Post by foxroe on Feb 22, 2012 16:14:54 GMT -6
Jakallan Underworld is the next project release. Now how cool is that? This will be epic. |
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Post by Baron on Mar 8, 2012 9:09:12 GMT -6
Jakallan Underworld is the next project release. Now how cool is that? That's my single-most desired RPG product. +1! I'm gonna snap this up! |
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Post by billiambabble on Mar 10, 2012 16:36:53 GMT -6
That pre-TSR text really piqued my curiousity and I'm now embarking on a quest to buy up and download select PDFs from the mental world of EPT. I posted some thoughts here: adventuresandshopping.blogspot.com/2012/02/empire-of-petal-throne-original-draft.html I'm really grateful to the publishers for making all of thhe older material available, since buying that box set is too rare an opportunity or way out of my price range. |
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Post by geoffrey on May 20, 2012 9:30:15 GMT -6
A question for anyone in the know: Is there an estimated release date for the print version of the 1974 EPT rules? |
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Post by samwise7 on Aug 24, 2012 14:40:01 GMT -6
I bought this up when I read about it on the Hill Canton's blog. It is an interesting document, and I'm glad I purchased it. I like to compare EPT to it especially when I'm not exactly sure about a rule. The history of the game was a big buying point for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 10:17:52 GMT -6
Has anyone written up a comparison between the 74 and 75 versions? Did much change?
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Post by aldarron on Jan 4, 2013 10:49:36 GMT -6
Has anyone written up a comparison between the 74 and 75 versions? Did much change? I haven't, but I have thought that would be interesting and have done some comparisons. There are notable differences here and there. The treasure tables come to mind IIRC. |
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Post by soundchaser on Feb 24, 2013 16:11:17 GMT -6
A thread bump... in case further wonderful wisdom is contemplated:)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 15:20:58 GMT -6
I've been comparing the rules portions of the '74 and '75 versions. It looks like the changes were mainly additions, often without concern for making them match. For example, the original had the level-vs-HD damage chart while the published one adds the variable weapon damage without explaining exactly how the two work together. Same with the addition of the "reaction time" initiative roll. The new section implies that only surviving characters can attack whereas the original rules that allow for a "dying blow" remain.
Unfortunately, doing a comprehensive comparison is too low on my gaming priority.
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