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Post by Zulgyan on Feb 14, 2008 11:10:01 GMT -6
So, which would be the last issue of Dragon that contains OD&D material, before the release of OAD&D?
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Post by ffilz on Feb 14, 2008 12:07:04 GMT -6
It's not really clear. And of course some would claim that when the first character class appeared, the game was heading towards AD&D land.
The Strategic Review has the most OD&D material, but the first dozen or two issues of Dragon are still very relevant to OD&D (even if somewhere they started to be more AD&D related).
Frank
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Post by Zulgyan on Feb 14, 2008 12:42:52 GMT -6
I really like the Witchcraft Supplement found in The Dragon #5.
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Post by foster1941 on Feb 14, 2008 13:23:30 GMT -6
OD&D and AD&D overlapped in The Dragon for a long time (not surprisingly, since it took 2 full years for the complete AD&D set to be released). I believe the last OD&D-specific article appeared somewhere in the late 20s, around issue #27 or 29 or so. As a general rule, I'd say anything up to issue #14 is all OD&D, from there up to about issue #20 is mixed but predominantly OD&D, and after that is mixed but predominantly AD&D.
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Post by Zulgyan on Feb 14, 2008 13:25:56 GMT -6
I think we should stop when the AD&D monster manual is released.
What say you?
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Post by foster1941 on Feb 14, 2008 14:21:44 GMT -6
That would be the most "purist" way to go about it, but that would cut you off around issue #6, meaning you'd be missing out on a lot of good stuff from the later issues! For instance, issue #17 (which I happen to know pretty well since it's the oldest one I actually have in hardcopy) includes articles on tesseracts in dungeons, vampires, specialist magic-users, expanding the jousting rules from Chainmail for D&D, and a very long story-article by Gary Gygax about combining D&D and Metamorphosis Alpha that is an absolute classic. All of it is either edition-neutral or OD&D-specific, despite the full-page ad for the newly-released AD&D Players Handbook that appears in the back. This ENWorld thread of review/summaries for each issue of The Dragon from #14 up to #27 (an earlier, now lost, thread covered TSR and issues #1-13...) gives a good idea of what was in each issue during this transition period. The biggest breaking-point is probably issue #22, which included a 9-page preview of material from the forthcoming AD&D Dungeon Masters Guide (including the combat & saving throw tables). So, to remain OD&D-pure, ending your collection at issue #21 (December 1978) might be the best call...
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Post by badger2305 on Feb 14, 2008 16:12:44 GMT -6
I think it was issue #22 that was the merger of The Dragon and Little Wars; you might use that as a marker of when things shifted to AD&D.
However, there is Larry Schick's excellent home-brew pantheon that shows up in issue #23 or #25 (somewhere around there). It's a tough call.
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Post by Zulgyan on Feb 14, 2008 16:17:35 GMT -6
If its not system specific, you can find good stuff here and there in the different periods of the mag.
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