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Post by gloriousbattle on Sept 5, 2011 12:57:43 GMT -6
The French Loire Campaign of 1429 consisted of five actions: 1. The Siege of Orléans. 2. The Battle of Jargeau. 3. The Battle of Meung-sur-Loire. 4. The Battle of Beaugency. 5. The Battle of Patay.
Joan won every one of them, and that using a rag-tag army and against skilled, trained soldiers.
To this day, she gets dismissed as a madwoman, but her record is pretty impressive. What do you think?
Also, how would you stat Joan in a Chainmail game?
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Post by cooper on Sept 5, 2011 13:16:40 GMT -6
Well, using CM, she's simply an army commander...using the fantasy supplement 2nd edition (my name for the LLB's) she's an 8th level paladin!
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Post by talysman on Sept 5, 2011 16:32:03 GMT -6
I don't know about statting her as a paladin in D&D, since the only record of her using her sword was against prostitutes. The commander part is dead on, though; she knew how to lead and inspire people.
Stat her as a bard! Or more prosaically, a cleric.
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Post by jacar on Sept 15, 2011 9:40:22 GMT -6
I don't know about statting her as a paladin in D&D, since the only record of her using her sword was against prostitutes. The commander part is dead on, though; she knew how to lead and inspire people. Stat her as a bard! Or more prosaically, a cleric. She was wounded in battle while trying to lead her troops against one of the forts around Orleans. So, she was ready to go into combat if she had too.
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Post by talysman on Sept 15, 2011 14:13:00 GMT -6
I don't know about statting her as a paladin in D&D, since the only record of her using her sword was against prostitutes. The commander part is dead on, though; she knew how to lead and inspire people. Stat her as a bard! Or more prosaically, a cleric. She was wounded in battle while trying to lead her troops against one of the forts around Orleans. So, she was ready to go into combat if she had too. Well, yeah, she was *in* battle. She was a battle leader. There's just no evidence that she *fought*. As I recall, she was hit by an archer. The wound should have been fatal, but she survived, which was taken as further evidence of her divine mission. Completely off-topic, I found out there was another incident where she should have died, but didn't. When she was being held captive and on trial, she tried to commit suicide by jumping from a tower. She miraculously recovered; when asked why she jumped, she said that she felt a presence that compelled her to kill herself. That response was actually a crucial turning-point in her trial, since denying that she had free will amounts to heresy. If she *hadn't* used the compulsion argument, then she chose to commit suicide and would have been found guilty that way. I don't think that incident is described in any of the popular adaptations of her life story.
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Post by gloriousbattle on Sept 17, 2011 2:42:50 GMT -6
Well, yeah, she was *in* battle. She was a battle leader. There's just no evidence that she *fought*. As I recall, she was hit by an archer. The wound should have been fatal, but she survived, which was taken as further evidence of her divine mission. There was also a story of her climbing a scaling ladder and getting hit on the helmet with a rock hard enough that the rock split apart, but, she suffered no injury. There was a film about her done maybe 10 years ago, in which the question was left open whether Joan was divinely inspired, or just listening to internal voices. www.youtube.com/watch?v=W87sf7CewDEStill, she kicked some serious padonk, and, IMO, was largely responsible for turning the war against the English. It is hard to equate that kind of success with pure craziness.
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Post by Lord Kjeran on Sept 26, 2011 11:46:02 GMT -6
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Post by Sean Michael Kelly on Sept 26, 2011 15:29:59 GMT -6
Well, where she put all of those paired animals after the flood?
:-D
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