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Post by Finarvyn on Dec 11, 2009 17:00:13 GMT -6
Okay, guys. My memory is faulty and I'd like some help.
One either this board or one of the other "old school" sites, I remember seeing recently a thread where someone took the OD&D spells and broke them up into 20 spell levels with the idea that each time a wizard advances a class-level he or she would gain access to another of the spell-level lists.
The intent was to avoid some of that darned confusion where wizards of level X could only cast spells of level Y.
Anyone know where I lost that thread? (If it was here I want to EXALT somebody!)
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Post by coffee on Dec 11, 2009 17:03:24 GMT -6
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Post by snorri on Dec 11, 2009 17:07:13 GMT -6
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Post by Finarvyn on Dec 11, 2009 22:20:08 GMT -6
So, you have to exalt James' daughter, Fin. And also Monte Cook, who published this method in his Book of Experimental Might Hmmm. So if James' daughter and Monte Cook would just join up here, then an EXALT is awaiting each of them!
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Post by snorri on Dec 12, 2009 6:03:31 GMT -6
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fitz
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Post by fitz on Dec 12, 2009 17:37:51 GMT -6
I've finally got around to putting my 20-level magic stuff up on my website. The page includes details of spell-casting restrictions etc. for my own campaign; the 20-level spell lists are at the bottom of the page.
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Post by waysoftheearth on Dec 12, 2009 18:12:44 GMT -6
Very nicely done Fitz! Have an exalt.
p.s. Perhaps one small clarification: "Fighter-mages are limited to spells of Level 12 or lower, even if their INT is higher than 12." reads as though a fighter-mage with less than 12 intelligence can still cast spells up to level 12.
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Post by fitz on Dec 12, 2009 18:28:37 GMT -6
OK, I've edited that passage to read "Fighter-mages are likewise limited by their INT score, but they can never cast spells higher than Level 12 even if their INT is higher than 12."
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Post by Finarvyn on Dec 13, 2009 7:09:15 GMT -6
I EXALT you as well, Fitz! I love your S&W webpage! :-)
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Post by waysoftheearth on Dec 30, 2009 20:38:53 GMT -6
The intent was to avoid some of that darned confusion where wizards of level X could only cast spells of level Y. I have been thinking on this recently, and the simplest solution that occurs to me is to just rename the spell levels themselves. A 1st level wizard can cast level 1 spells, which is nice and obvious. But, a 3rd level wizard can cast level 2 spells? Let's re-badge those as "level 3" spells. A 5th level wizard can cast level 3 spells? Let's re-badge those as "level 5" spells. And so on. It doesn't give your magic-user new spells to play with every level, but it does do away with any confusion re: PC level versus spell level, and it's almost zero effort.
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Post by coffee on Dec 30, 2009 23:15:34 GMT -6
I have been thinking on this recently, and the simplest solution that occurs to me is to just rename the spell levels themselves. A 1st level wizard can cast level 1 spells, which is nice and obvious. But, a 3rd level wizard can cast level 2 spells? Let's re-badge those as "level 3" spells. A 5th level wizard can cast level 3 spells? Let's re-badge those as "level 5" spells. And so on. It doesn't give your magic-user new spells to play with every level, but it does do away with any confusion re: PC level versus spell level, and it's almost zero effort. That's so brilliantly simple that nobody ever thought of it before. Have an exalt for that!
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Post by Finarvyn on Dec 31, 2009 7:28:16 GMT -6
What I did years ago was kind of a blend of the two ideas: renaming spells and creating more levels. I went with something like what waysoftheearth suggests, with spell levels named 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 15, 17, 19 but then broke up each spell list into two parts to fill in the even numbered spell levels.
I suspect what I had by the end was something similar to the 20-level list, but I misplaced mine long ago and couldn't compare the two. (I have some old boxes of D&D stuff and it may be in one of those notebooks. I'd have to hunt for a while.)
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