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Post by havard on Nov 3, 2009 15:29:23 GMT -6
In DA1's description of Thorsen One-Thumb mentions a Cirkhosian merchant. Does anyone know anything else about this realm?
Havard
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Post by snorri on Nov 4, 2009 7:27:01 GMT -6
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Post by havard on Nov 4, 2009 11:43:39 GMT -6
Ah, the legendary Zendrolion! My Italian isnt good enough to make out much from that link, but I know that Zendrolion's ethnological model is quite complex. I'm guessing basing them on Finns is just something that would fit well with everything else in the model, or there could be something about the name? Havard |
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Post by snorri on Nov 4, 2009 12:13:52 GMT -6
As far as I can read, there's no explanation why he link Cirkhosia with a finn or baltic style population, so he should have get the idea or info from something else. But if we stick with the few informations from DA1, I wonder what could be the link. The first association with a merchant wouldn't be Same people, even if nothing says Cirkhosian are mostly merchants. By the name, the mostlky euphonic sound would be Circassian - maybe a better choice.
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Post by havard on Nov 4, 2009 13:53:15 GMT -6
As far as I can read, there's no explanation why he link Cirkhosia with a finn or baltic style population, so he should have get the idea or info from something else. But if we stick with the few informations from DA1, I wonder what could be the link. The first association with a merchant wouldn't be Same people, even if nothing says Cirkhosian are mostly merchants. By the name, the mostlky euphonic sound would be Circassian - maybe a better choice. Associating them with the Circassians is an interesting idea! I'm guessing the link to a finn or baltic culture could perhaps be based on the fact that Cirkhosians have been known to deal with the Skandaharians, and so they could be based on a culture not too far from RW Scandinavia, geographically. My map of Blackmoor, where I located Cirkhosia north of the Skandahar lands could also have been a contributing factor, as I am pretty sure Zendrolion would be familiar with that one. My placement of the country was fairly aribitrary though. These days, I might be more inclined to making Cirkhosia a province of Thonia. Havard |
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Post by snorri on Nov 4, 2009 16:57:28 GMT -6
If we consider Skandaharians to be viking-like people, as it seems [and vikings are in Chainmail, in OD&D and FFC, they could be historically linked to a lot of trading peoples, as they could be in Constantinople, in Russia and later, in Hanseatic towns. And nothing says if the merchant was a nomad or a sailor. So it let place for a lot of possibilities.
Anyway, I guess DAve more or less placed the Chainmail peoples - all or some - on the map (the viking exemple is obvious, as are the orcs tribes), then later changed the names to make them look more fantasy (vikings becoming Skandaharians). Have a look on the peoples listed in Chainmail and see what they could have become in FFC could be intersting.
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Post by snorri on Nov 5, 2009 5:49:33 GMT -6
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Post by aldarron on Nov 5, 2009 13:47:59 GMT -6
As far as I can read, there's no explanation why he link Cirkhosia with a finn or baltic style population, so he should have get the idea or info from something else. But if we stick with the few informations from DA1, I wonder what could be the link. The first association with a merchant wouldn't be Same people, even if nothing says Cirkhosian are mostly merchants. By the name, the mostlky euphonic sound would be Circassian - maybe a better choice. I dunno about Cirkhosians either and in a fantasy world the names and languages could be anything like inuit speaking arabic, but I'll second Snorri's point that there is nothing in the name itself that reflects any northern peoples I know of. Circassians might be the origin of the name, or it could be Khosian (afican Bushmen) or a melding of the two "cool sounding" names, or less likely the Khasian language peoples of India. My guess would be that these Cirkhosians are some far ranging trading people - maybe like the ancient phoenicians. |
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Post by snorri on Nov 10, 2009 9:59:29 GMT -6
My feeling is also some "phoenician type" tarding people, as the quote on the Cirkhosian merchant looks as if if was a cliché, as if it was a common association of words - you can expect to meet a Cirkhosian merchant allmost anywhere. Ibo people could be an intersting model.
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