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Post by codeman123 on Apr 5, 2009 0:26:06 GMT -6
WTF happened to dragonsfoot! It's become so inhospitable everyone one there is so rude and all they do now is bicker and argue about stupid rules that do not matter... i thought d&d was about rolling some dice making some nuts up and having a heck of alot of fun...
Does not seem like that to most of those guys anymore.. sad used to be such a good forum that had alot of interesting discussion.
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Post by coffee on Apr 5, 2009 0:40:25 GMT -6
I couldn't tell you. I only go to Dragonsfoot to read what Tim Kask has to say. (At least, since Gary died.) I don't participate in the discussions at all.
I'm much more at home right here, where folks are friendly.
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Post by codeman123 on Apr 5, 2009 0:44:03 GMT -6
I agree sir i love this forum such a great community.
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Post by Zulgyan on Apr 5, 2009 1:12:48 GMT -6
I haven't felt that about Dragonsfoot, but maybe because I post very little there.
Anyway, take into account that DF is more populated, and that generally means more trouble.
This is also my favourite board.
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Post by jimlotfp on Apr 5, 2009 1:20:47 GMT -6
I stopped going there awhile back. I get the impression, and I have no idea if this is the case, that a lot of people there aren't actually playing, and that being on Dragonsfoot is their way of still participating in the hobby.
It also seems like you're "in" or you're "out" there. With this board, everyone is "in" and I like that idea better.
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Post by greyharp on Apr 5, 2009 3:45:15 GMT -6
I rarely post there anymore. In fact read a whole lot less threads there too these days. I can't stand the negative types that seem to get their jollies from needlessly starting puerile arguments. Sad, as checking DF used to be such a joy.
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Post by machfront on Apr 5, 2009 6:17:35 GMT -6
I don't get that. At least, not to that extent. But then, I don't read the 1E sub-forum, where I would guess much of the more rule-tastic discussions may be occuring. Some arguments do get pretty bad, though. I'll admit to being a pretty gruff and negative person, but I don't get into 'nerd rage' arguments with my fellow gamers... I don't think... Also, though I've been visiting and posting there since '06.. I still don't really feel like I'm a 'part of the gang', but oh well. I'll live. I always have the TrollBridge and other boards.
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Post by Finarvyn on Apr 5, 2009 6:29:24 GMT -6
I still go to DF quite often, although my participation has shifted somewhat. I still read through "Classic D&D" but I used to be looking for OD&D threads, which are few and far between over there. (K&K has better OD&D discussion.) Now that this place has taken off, I don't have to settle for "Classic" anymore.
I post mostly in the "Other RPG" section becasue it's still Old Schoolers talking about games there. And I like the "Castles & Crusades" section, even though there isn't much traffic there anymore. I'll read through the AD&D section and Gary's Greyhawk and occasionally the 2E posts if I get a little bored.
So, yeah I still like it. I find that most of the stuff I hoped to find there I can find here in greater quantity and such, but DF is still good in my book!
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Post by evreaux on Apr 5, 2009 9:47:33 GMT -6
Dragonsfoot has always been contentious, although that certainly goes in cycles. IMO, today's DF can't hold a candle to the fighting that went on during the Edition War days back in 2003, or when C&C was released, or when many DF 1E forum regulars left to found the Alehouse and the Grognards' Tavern.
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Post by calithena on Apr 5, 2009 10:00:40 GMT -6
Despite ups and downs I think Dragonsfoot is still a huge and important player in the classic FRP scene. I am not super-active there and never have been but the site and the forums are both invaluable resources. I'm glad the board exists, even if I too am more at home on this one.
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Post by benoist on Apr 5, 2009 10:09:57 GMT -6
I agree with Calithena. I too am not a huge poster on Dragonsfoot, most of the time, but the simple fact the boards exist makes them a very valuable resource indeed.
As a rally point, a place to find your way through the maze of sites and opportunities in vintage gaming, a place to talk with some of the actors of the early RPG scene (Tim Kask, Rob Kuntz et al)... dragonsfoot is awesome.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 6, 2009 6:32:42 GMT -6
I also agree with Calithena. The Dragonsfoot boards are pretty large and diverse. The second edition subforum is by no stretch of the imagination an unfriendly place, nor the workshop. The first edition subforum has some unfriendly threads, but mainly I think it is a perception issue. I remember when I first started frequenting Dragonsfoot in 2006/7, and I thought it was very intimidating, but now I do not feel that way at all.
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Post by chgowiz on Apr 6, 2009 7:52:09 GMT -6
I find that for signal to noise ratio, my favorite boards are this one, K&K and Swords/Wizardry. DF is nice for the PbP threads and for some topics, but I have much more success and joy in the above named 3.
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Post by makofan on Apr 6, 2009 8:15:00 GMT -6
I was big into DF until Fin started this one and convinced me to try OD&D. I only check it once per week now, but it is still a very good board. A word of advice - the AD&D 1st edition forum is for those who like to argue about minutiae, and may not be suitable for youngsters or OD&D players
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Post by stonetoflesh on Apr 6, 2009 10:35:12 GMT -6
Between this OD&D forum, the Swords & Wizardry boards, and the ever-growing list of blogs, my needs are well-met. I haven't spent much time at Dragonsfoot in the last few months, I check in periodically to browse the campaign logs and celebrity Q&A threads.
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Post by Random on Apr 6, 2009 11:18:57 GMT -6
Rawr, I run a PBP and play in two at DF. I check the Classic subform every now and then, and I post in 1E if I have a question about rules or opinions (like my recent fireball thread).
All around, I like the forum. It's easy to ignore the weirdos.
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Post by blissinfinite on Apr 6, 2009 14:45:01 GMT -6
I still visit DF frequently. I've 'met' a number of people there that have been very helpful in answering questions, have collaborated on a few D&D related projects and I find it a good reference. It was a starting point for me getting a bit back into the classic version of the game. Actually, I never moved on from the classic version, I just stopped playing for 20 years! Can't say that I've been annoyed by much there, but I'm not usually diving deep into rule issues and editions beyond anything post-Holmes. I do get quite a bit more from the Blogs out there, though.
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Post by Jason Coplen on Apr 9, 2009 16:43:24 GMT -6
I stopped going there awhile back. I get the impression, and I have no idea if this is the case, that a lot of people there aren't actually playing, and that being on Dragonsfoot is their way of still participating in the hobby. It also seems like you're "in" or you're "out" there. With this board, everyone is "in" and I like that idea better. I'm with you on that.
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Post by mythmere on Apr 11, 2009 8:43:09 GMT -6
Dragonsfoot is like a big planet with several moons - without that gravitational pull, many blogs and smaller sites simply couldn't get the visibility required to at least get started. In terms of signal to noise, yes, the ratio's not great. But that's a characteristic of a large board. Also, that signal to noise ratio lets newcomers feel more comfortable. Think of it this way: K&KA has a much better signal to noise ratio, but would ANYONE suggest that K&KA might be a better "intro board" to old school gaming than DF? No way, and I LOVE K&KA and think it contributes much more in the way of "deep thought" than DF. Different boards tend to fill different functions, but ONE of those HAS to be the big board with high signal to noise and the ability to direct people accurately outward to the smaller sites and blogs where they'll find more specific focuses of interest.
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Post by busman on Apr 11, 2009 13:15:00 GMT -6
The merits of DF, K&KA, or other boards aside, I'd say generally threads here have been much better served when they concern themselves with the goings on of things here or links to other places when they concern OD&D.
That's one of the best things about this board; it's very inclusive and open to all, primarily because it tends to avoid comparison or value discussions and instead tends to concentrate on ideas and the like.
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Post by greyharp on Apr 11, 2009 15:58:36 GMT -6
That's one of the best things about this board; it's very inclusive and open to all, primarily because it tends to avoid comparison or value discussions and instead tends to concentrate on ideas and the like. Very well put.
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Post by Finarvyn on Apr 11, 2009 16:12:56 GMT -6
That's one of the best things about this board; it's very inclusive and open to all, primarily because it tends to avoid comparison or value discussions and instead tends to concentrate on ideas and the like. Very well put. [stern, booming mod voice] Greyharp, if you keep agreeing with others I'm going to have to ban you or impose some sort of sanctions. Stop making others feel welcome. You're disrupting the feeling of "elitism" here. [/stern, booming mod voice]
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Post by Haldo Bramwise on Apr 11, 2009 16:45:56 GMT -6
*trembles at Marv's booming mod voice*
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Post by Zulgyan on Apr 11, 2009 16:49:44 GMT -6
The Classic D&D section is pretty peaceful and quite interesting to read from time to time. Also the Workshop one. Interesting discussion in "General" appear from time to time. The AD&D section is the less "welcoming" of all, but still has many interesting discussion, specially when not centered around rules minutae.
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Post by Finarvyn on Apr 11, 2009 18:38:52 GMT -6
*trembles at Marv's booming mod voice* Hey! I've always wanted to be feared! Maybe that's why I teach Physics!
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Post by ragnorakk on Apr 11, 2009 19:09:23 GMT -6
physics are scarey! the crystal balls, the mumbo-jumbo... Oh! I thought you said you taught psychics! sorry...
I'm pretty new to forums and blogs and such. Pretty intimidated by Dragonsfoot - don't know precisely why. Read the hell out of the Gygax and Kask threads - DF has pretty much been just been a lurk-site for me, read-only...
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Post by greyharp on Apr 11, 2009 21:36:48 GMT -6
[stern, booming mod voice] Greyharp, if you keep agreeing with others I'm going to have to ban you or impose some sort of sanctions. Stop making others feel welcome. You're disrupting the feeling of "elitism" here. [/stern, booming mod voice] Of course your Worshipfulness, you're right O Great One. [tugs forelock while bowing repeatedly]
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Post by kenmeister on Apr 16, 2009 20:35:45 GMT -6
I also agree with Calithena. The Dragonsfoot boards are pretty large and diverse. The second edition subforum is by no stretch of the imagination an unfriendly place, nor the workshop. The first edition subforum has some unfriendly threads, but mainly I think it is a perception issue. I remember when I first started frequenting Dragonsfoot in 2006/7, and I thought it was very intimidating, but now I do not feel that way at all. Obviously I'm a big DF guy, no need to explain that in any detail considering in about a year I'll probably have the most posts on the site ;D (of course I run a 2 party play-by-post there so that ups my post count a lot). I enjoy most of the contentious threads; people present their arguments in excruciating detail. I bet its like how the Talmud was created by the rabbis. I admit there was a recent thread where Scotty was unpleasant, but later in the thread he did semi-apologize for saying he had posted on not enough sleep. I'm pretty sure that DF is the largest site on the internet for 1E and Classic talk. What I've been wondering is if there is another really large 2E forum out there somewhere. I just have this suspicion that there are a large number of 2E players out there and I'm just not hearing from them. DF's 2E section is active for sure, but not as much as the 1E section.
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Post by Random on Apr 16, 2009 23:34:58 GMT -6
I just have this suspicion that there are a large number of 2E players out there and I'm just not hearing from them. It's probably because we're not talking about 2E much! I played 2E for about a decade, but when I looked around the internet to find a good AD&D forum, I found K&K, which prompted my 1E book purchasing binge and my conversion to that earlier edition. I'd still play 2E (indeed, I still do), but I doubt I would run it or spend much time discussing it on forums. I much prefer talking about D&D in general, and OD&D in particular (with an occasional AD&D rules question).
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Post by sham on Apr 17, 2009 10:00:33 GMT -6
DF will always be near and dear to me because it was the first place I visited that made me realize that there are other nut jobs out there who enjoy playing older versions of D&D. It made me realize I was not alone.
I don't visit more than once a month now, just to catch up on the celebrity threads if it's worth my time.
Lots of nice people are members there, and I have nothing bad to say about the forums. It certainly fills an important need in our community.
The best part about DF for me was that it eventually led me here. I like this place. I enjoy smaller communities where I can feel like a member without having to have a 5k post count.
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