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Post by tdenmark on Mar 23, 2023 14:20:22 GMT -6
I’d like to see a good production of Fafrd & the Mouser. I agree with thegreyelf and dicebro: there are two routes this can go to everyone's benefit. 1) adapt the better-known/loved modules. Start with B1, then follow up with B2. Later on, tackle the Advanced modules. (I'd give several organs to see a respectable rendition of S4!) 2) an "Appendix N" approach to expanding the D&D franchise. The obvious ones are off the list (LotR, Hobbit, etc.) Getting the rights to the Conan IP would be tough...and expensive, so that may have to wait. Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser would be ace. Moorcock's Elric books would also rock. Dying Earth? Hm, maybe. Lots of juicy possibilities.  Adapt the very best, go down from there until the franchise dies. Like what the MCU did. I'm serious, only the best of the best to pull audiences in. What would that be? Queen of the Demonweb Pits Temple of Elemental Evil Ravenloft Don't hate me for putting Ravenloft in there, you know it would resonate with a film audience. |
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Post by ochrejelly on Mar 23, 2023 16:46:06 GMT -6
Just to send everybody into a tizzy, my LOTR movie ratings are 1 out of 5 stars across the board, I’d give it 0 stars if I could.
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Post by tdenmark on Mar 23, 2023 16:50:17 GMT -6
Just to send everybody into a tizzy, my LOTR movie ratings are 1 out of 5 stars across the board, I’d give it 0 stars if I could. Opinions, everybody has one. What movie(s) would you rate 5 out of 5? |
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Post by tdenmark on Mar 23, 2023 16:56:01 GMT -6
Adapt the very best, go down from there until the franchise dies. Like what the MCU did. I'm serious, only the best of the best to pull audiences in. What would that be? Queen of the Demonweb Pits Temple of Elemental Evil Ravenloft Don't hate me for putting Ravenloft in there, you know it would resonate with a film audience. I already mentioned Expedition to the Barrier Peaks has the potential to be an amazing movie. Another one I should mention, I hesitate to on this board, but Dragonlance could make for an epic trilogy, though would probably be best as a series. Alright, it's fun playing Hollywood Executive Producer, but it will never happen. Though it is possible some old school D&D fans have worked their way into high level executive positions at some major film studios by now. |
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Post by ochrejelly on Mar 23, 2023 16:56:29 GMT -6
Just to send everybody into a tizzy, my LOTR movie ratings are 1 out of 5 stars across the board, I’d give it 0 stars if I could. Opinions, everybody has one. What movie(s) would you rate 5 out of 5? Oh I don’t know off the top of my head. I just didn’t enjoy those movies at all and often times people can’t handle that and that amuses me. |
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Post by jeffb on Mar 23, 2023 17:24:00 GMT -6
What would you give the LOTR Trilogy, Rob? As a whole or individually? The Fellowship 5 out of 5 the other two 4.5 out of 5. Overall 3.5 of 5. Bilbo 5 out of 5. In general, I liked the main characters but the movie was bloated in an obvious way and it suffered for it. Just trying to get a sense of "rating scale' here. Sure thing. More comments, the D&D movie has likable characters, believable motivations, an ok plot (a lot of flashbacks but points), and it didn't feel bloated like the hobbit did. Also bonus points for the primary motivation NOT being to save Neverwinter or the world like the trailers implied. Saving the day was a side effect. Also, the hobbit would be a 4 out of 5 FANTASY movie but it is not supposed to be just that it is about Tolkien's Middle Earth. Hence the downgrade. Also as for Rings of Power, it ranges from 2 out of 5 to 4.5 out of 5 depending on the specific storyline we are talking about. The best by far was with Elrond and Durin. The 2 out of 5 is the forging of the three-ring sequence except where Sauron interacts with Galadriel which was way better IMO but too short to salvage that last episode. Far too rushed and totally dropped the lore about the nine and the seven. Thanks for the details, Rob. That helps. As I see the thread is getting sidetracked, I'll refrain from getting into my own scoring and analysis of the LOTR/Hobbit trilogy here  |
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Post by ochrejelly on Mar 23, 2023 23:16:24 GMT -6
The Fellowship 5 out of 5 the other two 4.5 out of 5. Overall 3.5 of 5. Bilbo 5 out of 5. In general, I liked the main characters but the movie was bloated in an obvious way and it suffered for it. Sure thing. More comments, the D&D movie has likable characters, believable motivations, an ok plot (a lot of flashbacks but points), and it didn't feel bloated like the hobbit did. Also bonus points for the primary motivation NOT being to save Neverwinter or the world like the trailers implied. Saving the day was a side effect. Also, the hobbit would be a 4 out of 5 FANTASY movie but it is not supposed to be just that it is about Tolkien's Middle Earth. Hence the downgrade. Also as for Rings of Power, it ranges from 2 out of 5 to 4.5 out of 5 depending on the specific storyline we are talking about. The best by far was with Elrond and Durin. The 2 out of 5 is the forging of the three-ring sequence except where Sauron interacts with Galadriel which was way better IMO but too short to salvage that last episode. Far too rushed and totally dropped the lore about the nine and the seven. Thanks for the details, Rob. That helps. As I see the thread is getting sidetracked, I'll refrain from getting into my own scoring and analysis of the LOTR/Hobbit trilogy here No come on man, back me up haha! |
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Post by tdenmark on Mar 23, 2023 23:41:01 GMT -6
As I see the thread is getting sidetracked, I'll refrain from getting into my own scoring and analysis of the LOTR/Hobbit trilogy here Yeah, but its a good sidetrack.  |
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Post by boggit on Mar 29, 2023 1:27:30 GMT -6
Wow, you people are way more generous with grading the Ring trilogy films than I am!
Anyway, when it comes to the D&D movie, does the world it portrays lean more towards medieval, or more towards the early modern setting of 5th edition Forgotten Realms?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2023 9:10:50 GMT -6
The trailer and hype leading up to the movie pointed to it being a total flop. I'm genuinely surprised the film is doing well with professional critics and audiences.
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Post by thegreyelf on Mar 29, 2023 13:52:22 GMT -6
The trailer and hype leading up to the movie pointed to it being a total flop. I'm genuinely surprised the film is doing well with professional critics and audiences. How so? I'm genuinely curious as to what aspects of the trailer and hype pointed to it being a flop? I haven't seen, for example, an extra-letterboxed trailer with the movie's name in the corner (a usual sure sign of a flop). |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2023 19:48:31 GMT -6
How so? I'm genuinely curious as to what aspects of the trailer and hype pointed to it being a flop? I haven't seen, for example, an extra-letterboxed trailer with the movie's name in the corner (a usual sure sign of a flop). Adaptions are a slippery slope, especially a movie based on a game/hobby, of all things. The trailer made the movie seem like it would be a cheap experience, another brain-dead summer blockbuster to compete with the latest Marvel movie. |
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Post by thegreyelf on Mar 30, 2023 5:52:39 GMT -6
How so? I'm genuinely curious as to what aspects of the trailer and hype pointed to it being a flop? I haven't seen, for example, an extra-letterboxed trailer with the movie's name in the corner (a usual sure sign of a flop). Adaptions are a slippery slope, especially a movie based on a game/hobby, of all things. The trailer made the movie seem like it would be a cheap experience, another brain-dead summer blockbuster to compete with the latest Marvel movie. So moreso than indicating a flop, which would mean "makes no money and crashes and burns at the box office," you actually meant, "based on the tralier, I thought that it would suck from my point of view." |
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Post by tombowings on Mar 30, 2023 6:16:17 GMT -6
'Tis the trouble with metaphors.
Where a man to glimpse a bear today,
he might see nature's majesty.
Where he to spy the bear tomorrow,
His heart might beat with salmons' sorrow.
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Post by soundchaser on Mar 31, 2023 19:48:28 GMT -6
I loved it. Going a 2nd time tomorrow.
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Post by Finarvyn on Mar 31, 2023 21:01:20 GMT -6
Saw it tonight with my crew. We all agreed that by far it exceeded our expectations.
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Post by tdenmark on Apr 1, 2023 14:06:28 GMT -6
I can't believe it. It was good. Not just good it was a really outstanding movie.
No, really, it was actually good. I thought it would be fun and cheesy, but bad. Nope it had a genuinely good story, characters, emotional beats, humor was on point, outstanding FX. The whole family liked it.
I'm genuinely surprised.
And so many D&D easter eggs. They were organic to the film, none of them were out of place.
If I had one quibble I didn't see Ed Greenwood's name in the credits anywhere and I stayed to watch them all. Of course Gary and Dave deserve credit too, but the whole movie had Ed Greenwood's stamps all over it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 16:24:22 GMT -6
Looking forward to movie based on the above reviews. A good D&D romp. Who would have thunk it?
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Post by skars on Apr 1, 2023 17:22:09 GMT -6
We just saw it today and I enjoyed it. Fun stuff!
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Post by DungeonDevil on Apr 2, 2023 2:50:29 GMT -6
Are there any pre-d20/TSR-era nods or allusions, or is it all more recent D&D?
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Post by Finarvyn on Apr 2, 2023 5:01:31 GMT -6
Are there any pre-d20/TSR-era nods or allusions, or is it all more recent D&D? Most of the stuff mentioned pertained to the Forgotten Realms. I think Mordenkainen's name was tossed around, so a bit of Greyhawk, but mostly the Realms. A lot was name dropping along the way, such as mentioning a trip to Baldur's Gate or about being in the Sword Coast. That sort of thing. |
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Post by DungeonDevil on Apr 2, 2023 7:02:42 GMT -6
Are there any pre-d20/TSR-era nods or allusions, or is it all more recent D&D? Most of the stuff mentioned pertained to the Forgotten Realms. I think Mordenkainen's name was tossed around, so a bit of Greyhawk, but mostly the Realms. A lot was name dropping along the way, such as mentioning a trip to Baldur's Gate or about being in the Sword Coast. That sort of thing. If this does well, perhaps in the future they may consider Greyhawk-centric module settings, or (my personal hope), Blackmoor. |
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Post by jeffb on Apr 2, 2023 7:36:45 GMT -6
If I had one quibble I didn't see Ed Greenwood's name in the credits anywhere and I stayed to watch them all. Of course Gary and Dave deserve credit too, but the whole movie had Ed Greenwood's stamps all over it. Of course he sold the rights nearly 40 years ago- however Ed was ousted early in the 5E period. Novels were cancelled and he was "let go" from anything to do with advising/writing for official FR/D&D. Really sad (and I have a few choice expletives as well). He has been relegated to publishing on DMs Guild for his own creation and he has a Patreon. |
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Post by tdenmark on Apr 2, 2023 10:08:30 GMT -6
Of course he sold the rights nearly 40 years ago- however Ed was ousted early in the 5E period. Novels were cancelled and he was "let go" from anything to do with advising/writing for official FR/D&D. Really sad (and I have a few choice expletives as well). He has been relegated to publishing on DMs Guild for his own creation and he has a Patreon. Did he really sell it outright with no royalties? That seems a little foolish. I wondered why he writes so much for relatively small publishers. I think he did a bunch of Kalamar stuff for Kenzer Co. back in the d20 days. |
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Post by tdenmark on Apr 2, 2023 10:10:28 GMT -6
Of course he sold the rights nearly 40 years ago- however Ed was ousted early in the 5E period. Novels were cancelled and he was "let go" from anything to do with advising/writing for official FR/D&D. Really sad (and I have a few choice expletives as well). He has been relegated to publishing on DMs Guild for his own creation and he has a Patreon. Found this using Google Bard: "Ed Greenwood does collect royalties from the Forgotten Realms. He is the creator of the Forgotten Realms campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons role-playing game, and he continues to work on the setting as a consultant for Wizards of the Coast. As such, he is entitled to royalties from any sales of Forgotten Realms products, such as books, games, and merchandise. Greenwood has said that he is happy with the arrangement he has with Wizards of the Coast, and that he feels that it is fair to both parties. He enjoys working on the Forgotten Realms, and he is grateful that he is able to continue to do so even though he is no longer the primary creator of the setting." |
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Post by jeffb on Apr 2, 2023 11:26:20 GMT -6
Of course he sold the rights nearly 40 years ago- however Ed was ousted early in the 5E period. Novels were cancelled and he was "let go" from anything to do with advising/writing for official FR/D&D. Really sad (and I have a few choice expletives as well). He has been relegated to publishing on DMs Guild for his own creation and he has a Patreon. Found this using Google Bard: "Ed Greenwood does collect royalties from the Forgotten Realms. He is the creator of the Forgotten Realms campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons role-playing game, and he continues to work on the setting as a consultant for Wizards of the Coast. As such, he is entitled to royalties from any sales of Forgotten Realms products, such as books, games, and merchandise. Greenwood has said that he is happy with the arrangement he has with Wizards of the Coast, and that he feels that it is fair to both parties. He enjoys working on the Forgotten Realms, and he is grateful that he is able to continue to do so even though he is no longer the primary creator of the setting." Yes he gets royalties, but by selling the rights he has no more influence other than what he is allowed to have by TSR and then WOTC. He has not done anything official for WOTC in years. He is and always has been a gracious man however, so I don't see him ever having much negative to say despite he is no longer utilized or consulted and his book deals were cancelled. |
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Post by tdenmark on Apr 2, 2023 13:51:14 GMT -6
Most of the stuff mentioned pertained to the Forgotten Realms. I think Mordenkainen's name was tossed around, so a bit of Greyhawk, but mostly the Realms. A lot was name dropping along the way, such as mentioning a trip to Baldur's Gate or about being in the Sword Coast. That sort of thing. If this does well, perhaps in the future they may consider Greyhawk-centric module settings, or (my personal hope), Blackmoor. There is one reference to Mordenkainen in the D&D movie. It bothered me a little as he's not from the Forgotten Realms setting used in the movie. Though I could excuse it away as Mordenkainen is powerful enough to travel to alternate dimensions. |
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Post by captainjapan on Apr 2, 2023 21:31:30 GMT -6
The D&D movie is...fun.
It's a family film with A LOT of humor.
8 of 10.
Would watch a sequel if they released one.
Effects could have been stronger, but I'm sure the producers were trying to hit a lower price point than for the likes of Avatar or a Marvel movie.
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Post by jeffb on Apr 3, 2023 7:42:09 GMT -6
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Post by jeffb on Apr 3, 2023 7:43:11 GMT -6
I'm not watching the video I posted yet so as not spoiler myself. Going Thursday night with Wife and Daughter
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