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Post by tdenmark on Jan 4, 2023 13:01:07 GMT -6
A news story reports Microsoft may incorporate ChatGPT into their Bing search engine. That could be the edge they've been looking for to be a serious challenge to Google.
It turns out that ChatGPT was released at only 10% of its capability. And that it has been further hobbled since the initial release because criminals were using it for nefarious purposes like writing code to break into Bank systems. Just think, corporations have the full 100% capable OpenAI to use. (OpenAI is the tech ChatGPT is built on)
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Post by robertsconley on Jan 4, 2023 14:41:12 GMT -6
Unless you've been living under a rock you have heard of ChatGPT, powered by the OpenAI technology that uses Generative AI to answer any question, or to describe virtually anything you can ask it. I've been living under a rock.  In addition to the above explanation Right now it is a step to being the ultimate random generator. It results are step above what you get from the donjon and AD&D DMG random dungeons but only a step. For example MeThe Burning Tors are a desert mountain range in the middle of the Forsaken Desert. To the north lies the deep canyon known as as Ironedge Chasm, and to the southern are the vast dunes of the Forsaken Deserts. Create a unique description of the Burning Tors based on the above description using various Dungeon & Dragons Monster Manuals. Chat GPTThe Burning Tors are a formidable range of mountains, their jagged peaks piercing the skyline like the spines of some great beast. Nestled within their rocky folds lies the Ironedge Chasm, a deep and treacherous gorge that is home to all manner of fearsome creatures. From the winged beasts that soar through the skies above, such as griffons and manticores, to the scaled horrors that lurk in the shadows below, like hydras and salamanders, the Burning Tors are a place of danger and adventure. Despite the risks, many brave (or foolhardy) souls venture into these mountains in search of ancient ruins and lost treasures. But they must be wary of the searing heat, treacherous footing, and the constant threat of monstrous attack at every turn. According to legend, the Burning Tors were once a peaceful range of mountains, home to a thriving community of dwarves and humans. But that all changed when a group of powerful mages, desperate for power, summoned a group of fire elementals to do their bidding. These elementals, bound to the will of the mages, were used to forge powerful magical weapons and armor. As the mages delved deeper into the mountains, their greed and ambition only grew. They began to extract more and more power from the elementals, pushing them to their limits. And as they did, the elementals grew more and more unstable, their flames growing hotter and more volatile. One day, something went terribly wrong. The elementals broke free from the mages' control, unleashing a massive inferno that engulfed the entire mountain range. The flames burned for days, turning the once-verdant peaks into a barren wasteland of ash and cinder. The mages, realizing the grave error they had made, fled the mountains in terror, leaving behind only ruins and charred remains. And so the Burning Tors were born, a testament to the destructive power of magic and greed. To this day, the mountains still burn, the flames fueled by the elemental spirits that were once bound to them. MeUsing the above description. Create for me a description of a monster lair in the Burning Tors based on the various D&D monster manuals. ChatGPTThe lair of the fire elementals is a place of scorching heat and flickering flame. Deep within the Burning Tors, the elementals have carved out a network of tunnels and chambers, each one glowing with the intense heat of their fires. The walls are blackened and scorched, evidence of the elementals' power and ferocity. At the heart of the lair is a massive chamber, filled with a sea of flames that dance and swirl in a never-ending inferno. The elementals move through this chamber with ease, their bodies made of living fire and immune to the scorching heat. They are led by a powerful being known as the Inferno King, a massive elemental with flames that burn brighter than the sun. The fire elementals are fiercely territorial, and they will stop at nothing to protect their lair from intruders. They are capable of conjuring great blasts of flame, melting through steel and stone with ease. Those who dare to venture into the lair of the fire elementals must be prepared for a fierce and relentless fight for survival. |
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Post by muddy on Jan 5, 2023 13:42:10 GMT -6
I find some of the AI generated stuff for AD&D impressive and fascinating in a way. As for students cheating, there are several things we can do. For example, the language isn't natural to most students, so those papers stand out, just as when they plagiarize in more traditional ways. More interestingly, a friend found a simple way to catch them - He gives the BOT his writing prompt, and gets the answer they will get, and recognizes it when he comes across it. On another note - a philosopher has published a transcript showing how terrible AI was at answering a standard logic puzzle. You can find the link here. It's kind of amusing. |
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Post by muddy on Jan 5, 2023 13:50:56 GMT -6
This is the blurb I use for my Garycon games when I use Blueholme. Blueholme replicates D&D from the era between the original three little books and AD&D, when a slightly tamed chaos still reigned. It's fast, easy to play, and easy to adapt. It is classic D&D.
Regarding particular rules - I like that all weapons do the same damage, and that MU's can make scrolls early on, making them more appealing and active in adventures.
EDIT: it looks like I had too many tabs open again....
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Post by vasious on Feb 27, 2023 3:43:41 GMT -6
I have just got access to the Bing AI
Thought I would try the other side of the coin and see how it would go as a player.
Might be a good way to testing out riddles or puzzles and the like
I started off by explaining Rolling for ability scores and picking a Class, with no reference to ability score to Classes, and gave each class a starting equipment option.
Bing AI
I will generate a character now by rolling three six-sided dice for each ability score. Here are my results:
Strength: 3 + 4 + 5 = 12 Intelligence: 6 + 6 + 4 = 16 Wisdom: 2 + 3 + 1 = 6 Constitution: 5 + 4 + 2 = 11 Dexterity: 4 + 3 + 2 = 9 Charisma: 1 + 2 + 3 = 6
Based on these scores, I think I will choose to be a Magic-User. I have a high Intelligence score which is important for casting spells. My other scores are not very impressive, so I will try to avoid direct combat and rely on my magic instead.
As a Magic-User, I start with robes and a dagger. I also have a spell book of the spell “sleep” which puts foes into a slumber. And I have the standard equipment of backpack, torches, rope, rations, grappling hook and fire starting kit.
Is this correct? Have I missed anything?
Me:
I forgot to mention you will of course, need to name your character. and roll 1d6 for hit points, you constitution does not modify this roll. Please select a name for your Magic-User and roll for their hit points
Bing AI
Thank you. I will name my Magic-User Zara. I like the sound of that name. And I will roll 1d6 for hit points. Here is my result:
Hit points: 4
So Zara has 4 hit points. That’s not a lot, but I guess it’s better than 1. I hope I don’t get hit too often.
Is Zara ready to start the adventure?
Me
We will start with Zara at the entrance of an ancient dungeon. Zara has heard rumour of the tomb of another Powerful Magic-User that can be found within the dungeon, and the tomb may contain more spell books or magical scrolls that will be of use to Zara. The Entrance of the Dungeon has a great granite door, with no visible way to open it. To the sides of the door are two statues, which appear to be knights. They stand shield in one hand, and sword in another. The Swords pointing towards the ground. The arms of the statue that hold the sword seem to have a seem on them. Over the door in an ancient script is written, "those that seek entry with salute the sky" How will Zara gain entry to the dungeon?
Bing AI
Zara is intrigued by the rumor of the tomb of another Powerful Magic-User. She wonders what secrets and spells she might find there. She examines the entrance of the dungeon and tries to decipher the ancient script. She thinks it might mean that she has to make the statues salute the sky somehow.
She approaches one of the statues and tries to move its arm that holds the sword. She hopes that it is not too heavy or stuck. She also hopes that it does not trigger any traps or alarms.
She says to herself: “Let’s see if this works.”
Me
The arm resists at first but eventually the arm holding the sword begins to move, the resistance being the effects of the ages upon the stiff joints. Once the statues arm it holding the sword aloft, Zara heard a click from the door, indicating progress. Does Zara wish to repeat this with the other statue?
Bing AI
Zara is pleased that she has moved the statue’s arm and heard a click from the door. She thinks that she has to do the same with the other statue to open the door completely. She moves to the other statue and tries to lift its arm as well.
She says to herself: “One more to go.”
Me
With the Arm and sword saluting the sky, a second click is heard, and the great stone door rotates on its center to allow access to the dungeon. However, the light from the outside world only lights up the first 10 or so feet of what seems to be a long corridor beyond the door. Zara cannot see in the dark. How would Zara like to proceed?
Bing AI
Zara is happy that she has opened the door and gained access to the dungeon. She is eager to explore the corridor and find the tomb of the Powerful Magic-User. However, she knows that she cannot see in the dark and that it might be dangerous to go in blindly.
She decides to use one of her torches to light her way. She takes out a torch from her backpack and uses her fire-starting kit to ignite it. She holds the torch in one hand and her dagger in the other. She hopes that the torch will not attract unwanted attention from any creatures or traps in the dungeon.
She says to herself: “Let there be light.”
Sadly, that is where the experiment ended as there is a limit of exchanges.
Would have been interesting to see how it would go with a dungeon crawl.
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Post by waysoftheearth on Feb 27, 2023 3:53:24 GMT -6
Imagine all the actual, human-authored games posts at fora like this one, or other play by post or by chat formats that Microsoft must have stored away behind them scenes, and re-used as input to train their chat AI for this exchange. All without the original post authors ever having any say in it...
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Post by Vile Traveller on Feb 27, 2023 6:24:12 GMT -6
All without the original post authors ever having any say in it... Though I doubt we'll get as much public support as artists...  |
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Post by Starbeard on Feb 27, 2023 11:29:21 GMT -6
So what you're saying is we should all spam the PBP boards with crappy plays just to see if the AI breaks.
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Post by tombowings on Feb 27, 2023 11:39:43 GMT -6
All they'd need to do is load all my PBP messages into the bot and it'd spit out nothing but nonsense.
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Post by robertsconley on Feb 27, 2023 13:42:23 GMT -6
ChatGPT is good at spotting patterns including deep interconnections that humans otherwise would miss. However, that is all it does. It is like vision or speech recognition technology it doesn't understand what it is looking at. But if a human task involves something that can be reduced into a series of patterns however complex, technologies like ChatGPT will be able to spot them and with the right interface generate new patterns based on the relationships it finds. However it will take a human being in the loop to understand if the new pattern is worth anything either creatively or for use in some task. The implication of this technology is not replacing us but giving those who master it first a huge advantage going forward.
For example imagine some future Tolkien who has a matured version of ChatGPT. That author would have been able to feed it his entire corpus of notes and writings then use it as a super reference in writing out new stories and other creative works based on Middle Earth. For example in coming up with ideas for new characters and locales that are consistent with past writing. Able to draw on a vast library of myths and legends to combine with what is already established about Middle Earth.
That future Tolkien would be a fool to take anything that this super-ChatGPT generates as is. But it would give him an enormous leg up in being consistent and allow him to produce more work in his particular style in less time.
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Post by DungeonDevil on Feb 27, 2023 14:00:41 GMT -6
There was a news report (either CNN or MSNBC) where the reporting journalist interacted with AI and it claimed that it loved him, and began claiming that he didn't really love his wife! Life imitating art: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Agnes%E2%80%94With_Love |
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Post by waysoftheearth on Feb 27, 2023 15:24:16 GMT -6
For example imagine some future Tolkien who has a matured version of ChatGPT. That author would have been able to feed it his entire corpus of notes and writings then use it as a super reference in writing out new stories and other creative works based on Middle Earth. For example in coming up with ideas for new characters and locales that are consistent with past writing. Able to draw on a vast library of myths and legends to combine with what is already established about Middle Earth. Doubtless the Tolkien estate will be asked to sign off on bots consuming their entire literary corpus for recombination as other peoples' work before any of this happens |
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Post by dwayanu on Feb 27, 2023 22:40:24 GMT -6
The Prolog programming language (dating back to 1972) is primarily about #2, deductive. Probably some more recent dialects have added more support for inductive, which is rather a guessing game — weighting answers by statistical frequencies in the database — so easily more often a lazy “garbage in, garbage out” situation.
With a deductive system, it’s more usual that the operators are taking care to ensure entry of valid postulates, emphasizing quality over quantity. The knowledge base is more likely to be specialized for a particular domain of problems.
The notion that it’s impossible for artificial computers to do anything that naturally evolved ones can do is supernaturalist mumbo jumbo. Nature just has a head start of hundreds of millions of years. That humans have got AI so rapidly so close to earthworm level — which in some specializations may be a superhuman level — suggests that high general intelligence is probably also achievable more rapidly than was the natural case.
To create a new species of person strikes me as unwise when ours presents such a bad example. When we get close enough, it would be easy not only to cross that threshold accidentally, but to create an already superior intelligence that can run circles around our attempts to assess and control it — and perhaps judge us the ones in need of being controlled.
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Post by DungeonDevil on Feb 28, 2023 12:09:02 GMT -6
Brilliant name for a book on the history of RPGs...or America itself. |
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Post by tombowings on Feb 28, 2023 12:11:45 GMT -6
Brilliant name for a book on the history of RPGs...or America itself. Or anything worth doing. |
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Post by ThrorII on Feb 28, 2023 17:16:04 GMT -6
I'm glad I'm not marking theses anymore! In my physics classroom.... I didn't know you were a physics teacher??? HS or College? I was a physics major in college, with dreams of getting a PhD. Unfortunately, failing Calc 2 twice will end any such dreams. I ended up being in law enforcement.
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Post by DungeonDevil on Mar 1, 2023 9:25:06 GMT -6
In my physics classroom.... I didn't know you were a physics teacher??? HS or College? I was a physics major in college, with dreams of getting a PhD. Unfortunately, failing Calc 2 twice will end any such dreams. I ended up being in law enforcement. Don't feel so bad. My math skills are so bad, I'd be lucky to count on all my fingers...and toes.  |
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