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Post by Zulgyan on Nov 22, 2007 9:50:16 GMT -6
This pic by Jim Halloway could be a nice portrayal of the original GNOLLS, whom, as you may know, come from the cross bewteen Gnomes and Trolls (as stated in Monsters & Treasure) Are you convinced? ;D
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Post by Rhuvein on Nov 22, 2007 11:23:59 GMT -6
Heh, those are some ugly beasties for sure. From the fingernails to the teeth! Great image.
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Post by Finarvyn on Nov 22, 2007 19:21:46 GMT -6
Y'know, Gnolls were always just some weak monster to stomp on and keep moving. This picture makes me stop and think about gnolls as something other than lousy AC and lousy HD.
Those are some nasty looking critters!
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Post by Stonegiant on Nov 23, 2007 17:42:31 GMT -6
Throw in some regeneration and they have some definite possibilities!
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Post by coffee on Nov 23, 2007 18:10:49 GMT -6
Regerating Gnolls would be vicious!
I never really thought of them as being stomp-able; I only ever ran into them at first or second level. Then, they were a threat. After that, the DM always had bigger and better monsters to hit us with.
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Post by thorswulf on Nov 23, 2007 22:56:32 GMT -6
Reread your Dunsany! Gnolls live in trees, if I remember correctly, and don't take kindly to being robbed! seriously though, I don't think an actual description of a Gnoll is ever given by Dunsany. But that is a cool picture!
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Post by coffee on Nov 24, 2007 2:39:15 GMT -6
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Post by jrients on Nov 24, 2007 13:53:22 GMT -6
For a 3.5 campaign I once applied a Half-Troll template to the standard Gnome. The results were... odd. But I got regenerating Gnolls out of the deal, which is what I was looking for.
Also, if I remember my Dunsany correctly Gnolls are kidnappers and demand that their ransoms be paid in rubies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2007 16:42:38 GMT -6
That is one heck of a nice pic. Consider it "appropriated ".
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Post by tgamemaster1975 on Nov 25, 2007 19:15:25 GMT -6
I think I will do a new writeup for gnolls and post it here, anyone else that wants to do one should post it here also.
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Post by foster1941 on Nov 25, 2007 23:22:25 GMT -6
FWIW (in case anyone here doesn't know) that pic is from Tower of Blood, one of Rob Kuntz's recent "generic" (AD&D-compatible) modules, and actually depicts undead gnome-ghouls. Regarding Dunsany's gnoles, there was a recent thread on, I believe, one of Gene Weigel's now-defunct boards in which he posted a picture of the gnoles from an old illustrated edition of Dunsany that showed them as ape-like -- furry, stooped, long-armed but carrying swords (and possibly wearing belts/harness?). On that basis, and also the fact that they're depicted as being very stealthy in the story ( How Nuth Would Have Practised His Art Upon the Gnoles) Gene suggested that D&D's bugbear (from Supplement I) might make a good substitution for Dunsanian Gnoles, and I've kept that in the back of my mind ever since.
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Post by jdrakeh on Nov 26, 2007 7:44:40 GMT -6
Very cool! Thanks for sharing that with us. That said, I think that these gnolls would be a bit more fear-inducing without the garden gnome garb
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Post by Wm. Earle Wheeler on Nov 26, 2007 20:47:41 GMT -6
And for those of you who want to read some Dunsany, many of his works are available online! Follow these links: Great! I've been unable to find any Dunsany in the used bookstores!
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Post by jdrakeh on Nov 29, 2007 18:49:00 GMT -6
Great! I've been unable to find any Dunsany in the used bookstores! You might want to try new bookstores, as most of it has been collected and reprinted in the last four years.
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Post by grodog on Dec 8, 2007 20:57:11 GMT -6
FWIW (in case anyone here doesn't know) that pic is from Tower of Blood, one of Rob Kuntz's recent "generic" (AD&D-compatible) modules, and actually depicts undead gnome-ghouls. Thanks for the plug, Trent
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Post by driver on Mar 25, 2008 11:43:38 GMT -6
Some information from an interview with EGG by a fellow who is, um, very into gnolls: community.livejournal.com/gnollish_clan/46335.htmlIn my upcoming campaign, based on 3LB only, Gnolls *are* cross-breeds between Trolls and Gnomes -- "gaunt, grey, potbellied wretches with long bulbous noses, tangled beards, and great wing-like ears" ... "stronger and hardier than Gnomes, but more manageable than Trolls."
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Post by coffee on Apr 2, 2008 12:10:24 GMT -6
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