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Post by jeffb on Sept 1, 2022 19:35:19 GMT -6
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Post by doublejig2 on Sept 1, 2022 19:39:37 GMT -6
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Post by ochrejelly on Sept 1, 2022 23:56:46 GMT -6
Wow, I have the opposite reaction, those look absolutely terrible to me
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Post by asaki on Sept 2, 2022 5:29:40 GMT -6
Wow, I have the opposite reaction, those look absolutely terrible to me They're just crude renders, I'm sure the actual product will look much better. |
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Post by Desparil on Sept 2, 2022 16:57:08 GMT -6
Wow, I have the opposite reaction, those look absolutely terrible to me They're just crude renders, I'm sure the actual product will look much better. Agreed, those are clearly computer-generated 3D models and not physical objects - this article was second-hand, but I'm sure the official material from WotC included a statement that all images are representational only and the appearance of the actual products will differ. |
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Post by jeffb on Sept 2, 2022 19:11:54 GMT -6
I'm digging that PB&J Beholder.
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Post by Red Baron on Sept 3, 2022 6:39:36 GMT -6
Still wishing for a reprint of the 1980 Grenadier "Advanced Dungeons & Dragons" boxed sets.
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Post by tdenmark on Sept 4, 2022 0:51:51 GMT -6
Wow, I have the opposite reaction, those look absolutely terrible to me Really? They look exactly like what I'd expect. Count me in. |
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Post by simrion on Sept 4, 2022 6:26:28 GMT -6
My only question/concern...will these be offered in random packs like previous WoTC products?
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Post by Desparil on Sept 4, 2022 6:41:56 GMT -6
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Post by jeffb on Sept 4, 2022 7:29:00 GMT -6
I must be really out of touch. $100 for 8 miniatures? And I here I thought they were unaffordable as a kid in the 70s. That price is nuckin' futz.
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Post by Desparil on Sept 4, 2022 7:50:27 GMT -6
I must be really out of touch. $100 for 8 miniatures? And I here I thought they were unaffordable as a kid in the 70s. That price is nuckin' futz. It's collector's prices, plus these are extra-large pieces. On top of that, no-assembly-required pre-painted plastic miniatures will generally cost more than those that require actual modeling skill and effort on the buyer's part. Really, though, this set's price point is much more typical when you're talking about 28mm Heroic scale humanoid figures. www.amazon.com/WizKids-Dungeons-Dragons-Realms-Starter/dp/B01M1CRRY3/ref=as_li_ss_tl |
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Post by tdenmark on Sept 4, 2022 21:31:00 GMT -6
I must be really out of touch. $100 for 8 miniatures? And I here I thought they were unaffordable as a kid in the 70s. That price is nuckin' futz. It's collector's prices, plus these are extra-large pieces. On top of that, no-assembly-required pre-painted plastic miniatures will generally cost more than those that require actual modeling skill and effort on the buyer's part. Really, though, this set's price point is much more typical when you're talking about 28mm Heroic scale humanoid figures. www.amazon.com/WizKids-Dungeons-Dragons-Realms-Starter/dp/B01M1CRRY3/ref=as_li_ss_tlOften prices are listed high when first posted, then drop to something reasonable when it is actually available. I think they do that to hedge for factors out of their control: inflation, higher than expected manufacturing costs, etc. |
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Post by ravenheart87 on Sept 5, 2022 7:29:26 GMT -6
The Otherworld Miniatures and classic Mirliton miniatures out there are superior - and also metal, not cheap ass plastic or resin.
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Post by Starbeard on Sept 8, 2022 12:38:20 GMT -6
The price is pretty normal when considering large monster minis. These days, you can get something larger than an ogre, smaller than a dragon for say $6-12. Add color and that skyrockets to $20-30. Mass produced then 8 for $100 seems "reasonable." Before 3D printing and the Reaper Bones line, anything large would set you back a pretty penny.
Others have argued that everything is out of scale. I don't think that's entirely true, it's just that the bulette specifically is far out of scale compared to its traditional size (making everything else seem huge next to it). These are based for 5e, using the 5e system of monster sizes: Small, Medium, Large, and Huge aren't actually used to describe a literal height range, but how many squares the figure's base takes up on the battle mat with 5' squares. The bulette is listed as Large (2x2 squares), and to fit into those dimensions it has to be about half as big as the MM describes it (10'-12' tall at the shoulder, whereas here it's maybe 5'-6' at the shoulder).
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Post by Red Baron on Sept 8, 2022 15:41:03 GMT -6
The Otherworld Miniatures and classic Mirliton miniatures out there are superior - and also metal, not cheap ass plastic or resin. The models are really nice, but they are too big for the humans/demi-humans/humanoids to mix seamlessly with my ad&d grenadier figures! |
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Post by jamiltron on Sept 10, 2022 11:16:03 GMT -6
I'd have to see these in person, but the integrated bases are a big negative for me.
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Post by DungeonDevil on Sept 10, 2022 15:42:55 GMT -6
My imagination is far cheaper!
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Post by asaki on Sept 10, 2022 18:19:31 GMT -6
I must be really out of touch. $100 for 8 miniatures? And I here I thought they were unaffordable as a kid in the 70s. That price is nuckin' futz. lol, $100 is exactly what I told my friends it would probably be, but I didn't realize there were 8. I think the previous line of "classic" figs came out to $20 per mini. |
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Post by skars on Sept 29, 2022 21:42:54 GMT -6
The Otherworld Miniatures and classic Mirliton miniatures out there are superior - and also metal, not cheap ass plastic or resin. The models are really nice, but they are too big for the humans/demi-humans/humanoids to mix seamlessly with my ad&d grenadier figures! I do like them, but beyond scale considerations, they are not by any means cheaper unfortunately if that is a factor. |
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Post by thorswulf on Sept 30, 2022 8:21:55 GMT -6
Yes these are nice looking figures, but not $100 nice. To be fair I collect old figures and paint them because I could never afford them when I was a kid in the 80's. Nostalgia? Sure, but my mind just cannot wrap around the current collectors mindset. I paint better than most of the prepainted figures are painted. Wow was, that an awkward sentence! Most newer figures are geared toward the artistic stylings and sensibilities of the most current iteration of the game, all fine and well. But a goblin is a goblin by any other name!
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Post by tkdco2 on Feb 28, 2023 21:57:46 GMT -6
I just saw a couple of reviews on YouTube. I like the chimera and the couatl best. The beholder looks pretty derpy and way too happy. If I had that miniature, instead of a dungeon, I'd put him in a comedy club in Waterdeep.
Edit: Actually, a beholder may do well in a comedy club. Nobody would heckle him!
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Post by rredmond on Mar 1, 2023 9:19:56 GMT -6
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Post by rredmond on Mar 1, 2023 9:21:27 GMT -6
The beholder looks pretty derpy and way too happy. I see what you mean, that's a toothy beholder! |
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Post by tdenmark on Mar 1, 2023 11:56:42 GMT -6
I got the first set. Overall I like them, but the Beholder is a bit much. More than a bit, it is way too much with the colors and silliness.
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Post by tdenmark on Mar 1, 2023 19:53:56 GMT -6
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Post by tkdco2 on Mar 1, 2023 23:44:25 GMT -6
I have been thinking of using miniatures to illustrate D&D adventures like a comic book. The beholder can do the intro and outro Rod Serling style.
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Post by dwayanu on Mar 2, 2023 9:37:17 GMT -6
The actual MM illustration of the beholder is in profile, and while it has a ‘grin’ I think the new interpretation adds goofiness. The big eye looking far off to the side seems to be part of that. I don’t think the MM specifies bright orange, but maybe I missed that.
The previous version, on the cover of Greyhawk, had a smaller mouth and the eye shaped by a lid. It looked a bit quizzical, but on the way to sinister.
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Post by tdenmark on Mar 2, 2023 9:57:23 GMT -6
The actual MM illustration of the beholder is in profile, and while it has a ‘grin’ I think the new interpretation adds goofiness. The big eye looking far off to the side seems to be part of that. I don’t think the MM specifies bright orange, but maybe I missed that. I find all these classic D&D minis are really good except the Beholder. And it is supposed to be the star of the show! The colors are terrible, and it is really goofy. |
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Post by dwayanu on Mar 2, 2023 10:04:50 GMT -6
The beholder seems to me basically goofy in concept, and the MM illustration not in its own right a standout. It’s easier to see why for instance Trampier’s ankheg, informed by the original Erol Otus depiction, was reckoned a source worth evoking.
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