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Post by tdenmark on Aug 2, 2022 11:13:42 GMT -6
I've lost count how many times I've been approached by independent game designers for art, then they are shocked to find out I charge more than minimum wage. I get it, you want to illustrate that little work of passion you've been slaving away on for years and have no budget for art, but still want it to look good. There's always clip art but it is incredibly hard to find the just right clip art, and that can add up too! AI image making programs have been around for years, but up until now they've been interesting gimmicky little toys that don't really generate very useful images. Mostly they are weirdly abstract...or horrifying mutants. That has changed. Two tools in particular: Midjourney and DALL E have changed everything. Now you can see how this technology is going to change commercial art, and at last there is a low cost way to generate clip art that can actually be used.  The technology is still early and probably benefits more those who have the ability to post process and clean up the images, but as it matures it is going to be very powerful. I've been playing with these tools and have already found ways to use it and my books and projects from here forward will take advantage of it in some way.  More on my blog. |
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Post by Vile Traveller on Aug 3, 2022 5:27:43 GMT -6
As you say, early days yet - which means we are likely to see the end of gaming artists as a viable career. Sad but inevitable.
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Post by DungeonDevil on Aug 10, 2022 5:03:20 GMT -6
Well, because of the high cost of talented, professional artists, I had to illustrate my books myself -- and no, that's not a boast but a sincere apology.  I'd love to have Erol Otus or Peter Mullen or Liz Danforth do the art for my upcoming book, but I'd have to sell most of my organs and turn over my first-born to whomever gets the contract! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2022 2:41:41 GMT -6
Thomden, are those two excellent pictures AI generated, he asked quivering like a protoplasm left under a sunbeam?
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Post by tdenmark on Aug 11, 2022 13:25:52 GMT -6
As you say, early days yet - which means we are likely to see the end of gaming artists as a viable career. Sad but inevitable. Yes, a lot of artists are freaking out about it. I just see it as yet another tool. |
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Post by captainjapan on Aug 12, 2022 8:01:24 GMT -6
Here are a few of my attempts to create art using the A.I. with no further embellishment:  created by typing, "wizard attacking demon"  created by typing, "warriors duel in treasure cave"  "dragon"  "rakshasa" Midjourney is the name of the project. Their free trial of image generation is accessed through Discord. |
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Post by tdenmark on Aug 19, 2022 17:56:33 GMT -6
Those dragons came out pretty good, I notice it has a hard time with dragons, or horses, or any animals really.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 18:44:31 GMT -6
Apparently some of these programs are learning as they generate more art and are fed more source material to refine their techniques, much like the chess programs that now easily defeat grand masters learn. It'll be interesting to see how much they progress in five to ten years.
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Post by tdenmark on Aug 19, 2022 22:48:11 GMT -6
Apparently some of these programs are learning as they generate more art and are fed more source material to refine their techniques, much like the chess programs that now easily defeat grand masters learn. It'll be interesting to see how much they progress in five to ten years. I've only been playing with it for 2 months and it is remarkable how much it has improved in just this time. I'm noticing those with a more technical-engineering mindset can really squeeze the best performance out of it. |
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Post by captainjapan on Aug 21, 2022 12:57:00 GMT -6
I originally posted those test images to prove how marginal and abstract the ai generated art would be, but now that I take a moment to consider these, I think that the computer's imprecision might instead be a virtue. Especially, the scenes of action are quite evocative, BECAUSE they are abstracted. Looking closely at "wizard attacking demon" is really stirring my imagination more than if the details were filled in. My brain is defining and redefining the obscure figures more, the longer I gaze at it.
Say, I don't suppose there's an ai-powered or even a randomized D&D monster generator to pair with this. I could use some inspiration.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 15:56:37 GMT -6
I can't think of a better place to share this masterpiece I just stumbled upon:
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Post by rredmond on Aug 30, 2022 7:06:42 GMT -6
Wow, freaky stuff, but certainly interesting!
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Post by tdenmark on Aug 30, 2022 19:30:16 GMT -6
I can't think of a better place to share this masterpiece I just stumbled upon: Love King Gizzard. And their lyrics are perfect for AI Image prompts. |
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Post by tdenmark on Aug 4, 2024 6:23:05 GMT -6
As you say, early days yet - which means we are likely to see the end of gaming artists as a viable career. Sad but inevitable. And just 2 years later we see AI art everywhere. |
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Post by tdenmark on Aug 4, 2024 21:02:28 GMT -6
Apparently some of these programs are learning as they generate more art and are fed more source material to refine their techniques, much like the chess programs that now easily defeat grand masters learn. It'll be interesting to see how much they progress in five to ten years. What is interesting about those chess programs is that a grand master using a chess program can beat a chess program with no human nearly every time. It's like the chess program is a cyber-augmentation for the human mind. |
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Post by drskull on Aug 5, 2024 8:37:01 GMT -6
I asked an AI art thing to give me a picture of King Richard the Lionheart fighting goblins. It gave me a king with a Lion's head.
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I'd love to have Erol Otus or Peter Mullen or Liz Danforth do the art for my upcoming book, but I'd have to sell most of my organs and turn over my first-born to whomever gets the contract!
