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Post by geoffrey on Jul 1, 2021 11:27:59 GMT -6
I am looking for Trampier's original art that he did for the cover of 1st edition Gamma World, without the verbiage and trade dress on it. This guy:  Any help would be much appreciated!  |
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Post by captainjapan on Jul 1, 2021 11:57:12 GMT -6
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Post by jeffb on Jul 1, 2021 12:24:32 GMT -6
I'm partial to the ad with Elise.
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Post by geoffrey on Jul 1, 2021 12:56:55 GMT -6
Exactly so. Thanks a bunch! |
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Post by tdenmark on Jul 1, 2021 14:43:25 GMT -6
I hate to say this because Trampier is my favorite of the old school artists, but I really wish he hadn't colored it with color pencils. The grain of the paper takes down the quality of this great drawing.
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Post by tdenmark on Jul 1, 2021 14:48:00 GMT -6
Drew Struzan is the only artist who can draw with colored pencil and make it look professional.  |
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Post by tdenmark on Jul 1, 2021 14:53:43 GMT -6
I actually prefer seeing it in black & white.  Alright, sorry to be a party pooper. Both Gamma World and Trampier are some of my favorites. It would still be cool to have one of those original posters. |
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Post by captainjapan on Jul 1, 2021 19:52:36 GMT -6
I hate to say this because Trampier is my favorite of the old school artists, but I really wish he hadn't colored it with color pencils. The grain of the paper takes down the quality of this great drawing. The trick with colored pencil (if, unlike Struzan, it is the only medium you use), is to press so hard that you effectively obliterate the texture of the paper underneath. No white should show through your base layer, unless you're masking off whole areas. Trampier went a different route. Looks kind of like a seventies sci-fi Monet. |
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Post by tdenmark on Jul 1, 2021 21:38:48 GMT -6
I hate to say this because Trampier is my favorite of the old school artists, but I really wish he hadn't colored it with color pencils. The grain of the paper takes down the quality of this great drawing. The trick with colored pencil (if, unlike Struzan, it is the only medium you use), is to press so hard that you effectively obliterate the texture of the paper underneath. No white should show through your base layer, unless you're masking off whole areas. Trampier went a different route. Looks kind of like a seventies sci-fi Monet. I saw Struzan originals at the Norman Rockwell museum years ago (they host a lot of guest artist shows). It is very interesting because they are not designed to be looked at directly, they are designed for reproduction. So there is a certain harshness and contrast that you don't typically see in original paintings. But they look fantastic when reproduced. The colored pencil on top of the airbrushed acrylic in particular really defines things and makes them pop on the posters. Colored pencils tend to be a medium beginning artists are attracted to because they are relatively cheap and easy to use. I was exaggerating a bit saying Struzan is the only one who can make them look professional. Of course a lot of artists do fantastic work with them. It is just that in this particular piece by Trampier the roughness of the paper really stands out, particularly in the sky. I think he switched to watercolor and acrylics after this. Though I have not seen an original Tramp in person so can't be sure. Like many, I lament that he gave up his art career. He was on track to become a stellar fantastic artist. He kept getting better and better. I see that as one of the many things the TSR exec staff fracked up back then. |
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Post by captainjapan on Jul 1, 2021 22:20:01 GMT -6
Struzan at the Norman Rockwell museum; I think that would just about blow my mind. I am very happy to see some of the modern, digital artists picking up the baton from these masters. Paul Shipper springs to mind. There's also the guy that does the Stranger Things promotional art. Reading about what happened to Trampier was heartbreaking, really. My formative years were spent playing in front of his AD&D screen. Lots of great detail to pick out. And, obviously, the Player's Handbook Idol Cover is the defining image for D&D for a generation of players. He might have had many productive years ahead of him. It was his decision to walk away, though. I don't know that I could have stopped producing art, cold turkey. I'll bet he would have made a stellar backboard artist for pinball machines. He is 'of an era', so to speak. About colored pencil being an accessible beginners medium: I think schools do students a tremendous disservice foisting substandard art supplies on them. I know how expensive quality pencils, paints, and boards are, but Oh what a pleasure it is to handle real professional art supplies. Same goes for musical instruments. Many a wayward child might have aspired to the arts if it weren't for the budget constrained materials available in their blow-off art classes.[end rant] |
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