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Post by tavis on Oct 27, 2008 9:30:30 GMT -6
I recently got Caverns of Thracia and am finding it inspiring both as an adventure and as a window into '79-era play - for example, there are lots of "ability check" situations where you're instructed that characters must roll under their Dexterity on a d20 or fall off the rope bridge, for example.
In these cases, it's clearly a special ruling that's explained in the module. However, there's a room where Jaquays says that if you're standing on top of the flames when they emerge, your character takes damage and your items have to make a saving throw against normal fire. This seems like he's referring to something in the core D&D rules, since he neither explains the procedure nor cites a source (as when he refers you to Strategic Review #4 for details of an illusionist), but I don't remember ever seeing item saving throws in the pre-AD&D era to which I think Caverns of Thracia belongs.
Can anyone point me toward either OD&D rules for whether your items are destroyed by fire etc., or the house rules you use?
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Post by coffee on Oct 27, 2008 9:49:40 GMT -6
Well, there's Magical Items Saving Throws, on p. 38 of Volume II.
But it doesn't include a save category for normal fire, only magical fire. I would assume that normal fire is similar only not as hot; I'd give a +2 on the save if it's against normal fire.
But hey, that's just me.
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Post by ffilz on Oct 27, 2008 9:57:19 GMT -6
Although it is listed as "for Dungeons & Dragons" it is also contemporary with Dark Tower (in fact, I thought it came out later than Dark Tower), so it may well include some AD&Disms. The DMG sneak preview in Dragon #22 (Feb 1979) contains the AD&D item save charts, so it's quite possible this material was available to Judges Guild in time to be referenced in Caverns of Thracia.
Frank
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Post by tavis on Oct 27, 2008 10:50:59 GMT -6
Thanks for the info! Here's the specific text, from room 27A, Jets of Flame: "Any character standing over these holes will take 1d6 of fire damage and any items on their person must save against normal fire."
The publication date and Jacquay's signatures in some of the illustrations are both 1979, but a quick look at the Acaeum doesn't indicate whether it predates Dark Tower.
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