Narmer
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Post by Narmer on Apr 23, 2021 18:56:59 GMT -6
I was wondering if anyone knows of a clone of Mentzer Basic. I think it would be handy to have this version of Basic presented as a regular rulebook as opposed to a tutorial. It would be much easier to reference.
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Post by thomden on Apr 23, 2021 23:51:02 GMT -6
The worst thing about the Mentzer set is that it is presented as a tutorial all mixed up with the game rules. The tutorial would have worked much better as a separate adventure booklet.
Mechanically Mentzer's isn't all that different from Moldvay AFAIK. Are there any Mentzer fans able to elucidate?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 5:07:01 GMT -6
Adventures in the East Mark is my favorite. It does include some stuff from Mentzer's Expert, too, though. And some classes are renamed, like using "rogue" for "thief" but it's the same game sans the tutorial and with gorgeous artwork, and it's from Spain (but with an English translation) so it's a rare example of a retro-clone from someplace other than the US or UK.
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Post by Finarvyn on Apr 24, 2021 20:10:36 GMT -6
I saw a copy of this in a game store a year or so back. Looked really nice, but the boxed set was kind of expensive since I didn't know anything about the game. If I'd known it was a Mentzer-style clone I might have bought a copy just to see inside.
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Post by Narmer on Apr 24, 2021 21:30:42 GMT -6
I actually have the boxed set of East Mark! I picked it up used a couple of years ago. I need to dig it out and look at it.
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Post by barna10 on Apr 28, 2021 22:39:06 GMT -6
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Post by thomden on Apr 29, 2021 3:22:36 GMT -6
Doesn't the Rules Cyclopedia have some notable rules differences from the Mentzer basic?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 12:59:32 GMT -6
Doesn't the Rules Cyclopedia have some notable rules differences from the Mentzer basic? Yeah. There's long lists of the various changes online. RC is a big nostalgia trip and a proud part of many collections but it's got a lot of hank-a-jank in there. I'd never wanna run it completely by the book, that's for sure, especially omitting all the complex weapons maneuvers and skills. I do like the idea of demi-humans having their own unique leveling mechanics, though. Maybe the execution wasn't super refined here but the idea is intriguing.
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Post by spellslingsellsword on Apr 30, 2021 15:02:17 GMT -6
So, here is a related question. I own Mentzer Basic and Expert in print and PDF. If I wanted to edit these into a single book, what is a good way to do that?
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Post by hamurai on May 8, 2021 23:17:34 GMT -6
Well, to cut and merge PDFs I use PDF SAM Basic, a free tool for Windows and Linux.
If you want to cut and paste and re-arrange the text, I'd recommend using your favourite office/writer application.
For a really old school experience, print out the PDF, cut the parts you want to keep with scissors and paste them into a stylish notebook. Fill in house rules and annotations by hand.
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