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Post by tombowings on Dec 15, 2020 5:23:12 GMT -6
Mod note: The original poster (not tombowings) have since deleted their post. I don't recall the original link, but this may have been it:
Link www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/firefly-reboot-disney.html* * * * * Once again, Disney confirms its identity as a serial killer stalking my childhood. On a more seriously note, I hope Disney surprises me.
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Post by verhaden on Dec 15, 2020 8:40:40 GMT -6
Meh.
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Post by Falconer on Dec 15, 2020 9:16:08 GMT -6
Everything in the article smells fishy to me.
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Post by tdenmark on Dec 15, 2020 13:52:51 GMT -6
Loved Firefly. Liked Serenity. Hated this announcement, everything sounded wrong. Reminds me of Disney nuking the Expanded Universe then making movies about new characters and places no one cared about.
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Post by DungeonDevil on Dec 15, 2020 14:50:31 GMT -6
Joss' quirky, off-kilter humour and penchant for subversion doesn't fit well with what most identify as Disney. Disney is just a giant whale-shark-like beast gobbling up anything in its path.
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Post by tdenmark on Dec 15, 2020 15:21:07 GMT -6
If this was a continuation, following a different crew in the same universe I'd be interested.
Recasting the original characters? No thanks. The MOST remarkable thing about Firefly was the incredible chemistry of the cast.
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Post by Zenopus on Dec 15, 2020 15:35:10 GMT -6
The original post, including the link, has been deleted. I had seen the link but don't recall the exact page, so I grabbed the first one that came up in Google. The text looks familiar so it may be the same page.
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As a general rule, do not start a thread and then delete your original post. It confuses the discussion and makes it look like the second poster started a thread without a link. It creates unnecessary work for the mods.
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Post by talysman on Dec 15, 2020 16:52:28 GMT -6
The article basically says there was no report from any credible source that Disney is developing a Firely reboot, but hey, they probably are?
Doubtful. The big investors report dumped a huge amount of info on years worth of upcoming content, including Star Wars and MCU material, a new Aliens TV series, and even stuff like Hocus Pocus 2. But the reports I've seen from people who listened to the info dump didn't mention anything about Firefly.
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Post by barrataria on Dec 15, 2020 17:06:22 GMT -6
This is the best idea since having Ron Howard direct a film about the seamy criminal underworld of Coruscant!
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Post by Finarvyn on Dec 15, 2020 17:45:40 GMT -6
What I would like is to have someone (Fox, Disney, whoever) start the series where season 1 ended. Bring back the original cast. Pretend that the Serenity movie never happened, as the movie was a bunch of season 2 ideas all smashed into a single movie. Slow down the pacing and continue the storyline, even if the movie would cause some "spoilers" (although there is no reason why the plot would NEED to follow that of the movie).
I would like that.
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Post by Falconer on Dec 15, 2020 19:40:36 GMT -6
Same.
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Post by tdenmark on Dec 16, 2020 3:36:01 GMT -6
What I would like is to have someone (Fox, Disney, whoever) start the series where season 1 ended. Bring back the original cast. Pretend that the Serenity movie never happened, as the movie was a bunch of season 2 ideas all smashed into a single movie. Slow down the pacing and continue the storyline, even if the movie would cause some "spoilers" (although there is no reason why the plot would NEED to follow that of the movie). I would like that. I would like that too, but the cast is 18 years older, it's not going to work to just pick up with a season 2. They could make guest appearances as their older selves in a reboot. |
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Post by tdenmark on Dec 16, 2020 3:39:00 GMT -6
This is the best idea since having Ron Howard direct a film about the seamy criminal underworld of Coruscant! Lol. Ron Howard is a real hit or miss director with a couple truly brilliant films, but definitely not the first pick to do a seedy criminal underworld film. I think what Lord and Miller (the directors that were fired) was making was probably next level genius, and the execs just couldn't understand and wanted too much control. |
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Post by Falconer on Dec 16, 2020 14:42:55 GMT -6
I would like that too, but the cast is 18 years older, it's not going to work to just pick up with a season 2. Doesn’t bother me. They are all still sexy as hell. Just pretend they were always older, who cares?  |
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Post by tdenmark on Dec 16, 2020 14:54:18 GMT -6
I would like that too, but the cast is 18 years older, it's not going to work to just pick up with a season 2. Doesn’t bother me. They are all still sexy as hell. Just pretend they were always older, who cares? Well, I suppose you could just explain away the gap in time, and have the first few episodes with Mal "getting the crew back together". There's always a way, until the actors pass. Even then Hollywood is working on ways to bring them back. |
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Post by asaki on Dec 16, 2020 15:43:04 GMT -6
I think what Lord and Miller (the directors that were fired) was making was probably next level genius, and the execs just couldn't understand and wanted too much control. Word is they were trying to make more of a comedy...I can't imagine how bad the jokes were that got cut, because the jokes that stayed in the theatrical cut are pretty awful. Except for Lando mis-pronouncing "Han" all the time. That was kind of funny. |
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Post by talysman on Dec 16, 2020 16:50:23 GMT -6
This is the best idea since having Ron Howard direct a film about the seamy criminal underworld of Coruscant! Lol. Ron Howard is a real hit or miss director with a couple truly brilliant films, but definitely not the first pick to do a seedy criminal underworld film. I think what Lord and Miller (the directors that were fired) was making was probably next level genius, and the execs just couldn't understand and wanted too much control. I think I agree with something I've heard more than one professional film critic say: Ron Howard is a good worker. He'll do a good job, and if the material is good or great, you'll get a good or great movie. Otherwise, you'll get something that's just OK, but at least it won't be terrible. This makes Ron Howard the go-to director when you need to get a minimal good job done fast. He trained under Roger Corman, after all. When you're committed to a film and the project goes wrong, you get Ron Howard to at least salvage what you have, even though you know the result may be a forgettable movie. And in the case of his Star Wars movie he did, there's no way of knowing if the original project would have failed or succeeded, but it probably was different from what they expected. Hollywood execs are notorious for only wanting to do tried and true things. Repeat all the stuff that fans cheered in previous movies, don't do anything different. If the Solo movie was too novel, too innovative, they would have been spooked. Best to fire those guys, rewrite the script to minimally qualify as a Star Wars movie, and get a reliable director to crank out something that might not be great, but at least you won't lose any money. And I can't really blame Disney for this. As may of you know, I was never a big Star Wars fan, but have been binging all the movies and avoiding preconceptions of fans in an effort to give them a fair shake and judge them as movies instead of as a franchise. I think I'm about halfway through? Anyways, my feeling on Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, which I'd seen part of but never the whole movie, was that there were a lot of things they did basically because they did something similar before, the most obvious being blowing up the Death Star again. You can do that and get away with it, sometimes. But then they did it again in Phantom Menace (not technically a Death Star, but a final battle scene in space meant to recall that.) And not even the fans bought it. Repeating yourself eventually stops working. So... pulling this all back to Firefly... I don't think they should reboot it or continue the adventures of the original crew. That's repeating themselves. And honestly, although I like Firefly, I don't think it was such a great story that it should be repeated. If they can think of something new to do in the Firefly universe, a spinoff might not be bad. But the best part of Firefly wasn't the universe, it was the Joss Whedon dialogue. And I'm not sure he could still deliver the goods. Maybe... well, maybe those guys who got fired from Solo and did Into The Spiderverse could do it, or Taika Waititi. But aren't they all busy? |
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Post by tdenmark on Dec 17, 2020 6:36:20 GMT -6
Word is they were trying to make more of a comedy...I can't imagine how bad the jokes were that got cut, because the jokes that stayed in the theatrical cut are pretty awful. Except for Lando mis-pronouncing "Han" all the time. That was kind of funny. Do you really think that what was in the theatrical cut was actually their work? Ron Howard essentially refilmed and recut the entire thing. Those guys went on to make Into the Spiderverse. Genius. |
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Post by asaki on Dec 17, 2020 14:11:12 GMT -6
Anyways, my feeling on Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, which I'd seen part of but never the whole movie, was that there were a lot of things they did basically because they did something similar before, the most obvious being blowing up the Death Star again. You can do that and get away with it, sometimes. Yeah, a lot of stuff in ANH and RotJ were originally one big movie script, and Lucas realized he had to pare it down a lot, and wasn't sure if Star Wars would be successful enough to get sequels. So a lot of his cut content wound up in Jedi. In that script, instead of Ewoks on Endor, it was Wookiees on Kashyyyk, and they all hopped into ships to help take down the Death Star. |
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Post by barrataria on Dec 18, 2020 14:25:51 GMT -6
This is the best idea since having Ron Howard direct a film about the seamy criminal underworld of Coruscant! Lol. Ron Howard is a real hit or miss director with a couple truly brilliant films, but definitely not the first pick to do a seedy criminal underworld film. I think what Lord and Miller (the directors that were fired) was making was probably next level genius, and the execs just couldn't understand and wanted too much control. I actually liked that movie more than any of the other Disney ones in the end, but it always struck me that Howard made no sense at all except to the studio/finance suits. Anyway, I'd rather they left Firefly alone and used their limitless resources to make up new stories/settings/characters, but we'll see (assuming I keep paying for Disney/Hulu/ESPN+ that long). |
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