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Post by Piper on Nov 17, 2020 8:51:58 GMT -6
From PrintMe1 printing press, here is the first of four photographs of the finished product. This is what comes out of the box, kraft paper wrap with wax seal.  |
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Post by captainjapan on Nov 17, 2020 8:53:35 GMT -6
classy!
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Post by Piper on Nov 17, 2020 8:56:24 GMT -6
Image 2 of 4: my table copies of Volumes 1-3 (left) and Volumes 4-6 (right). I didn't bother designing custom covers since these are intended for reference (and abuse) not show.  |
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Post by Piper on Nov 17, 2020 8:59:11 GMT -6
My new table copy (left) versus the digest size rules (right), exterior shot.  |
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Post by Piper on Nov 17, 2020 9:01:01 GMT -6
Table copy (top) versus digest-size (bottom), interior comparison. The expanded page size makes the print easy on these old eyes.  |
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Post by Piper on Nov 17, 2020 9:16:37 GMT -6
Agreed ... I always thought the wax seal was a nice touch. Page! Fetch my signet ring and sealing wax! -- At once, sire! |
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Post by captainjapan on Nov 17, 2020 9:17:24 GMT -6
thanks so much for posting these pics. someone else linked printme1 over on the odnd subreddit. anyway, I was mulling it over seeing as how I lost access to the comb binder in the sales office at work. I'm really impressed. what's the paper quality? do you get a heavier weight first page? backboard?
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Post by Piper on Nov 17, 2020 9:31:27 GMT -6
thanks so much for posting these pics. someone else linked printme1 over on the odnd subreddit. anyway, I was mulling it over seeing as how I lost access to the comb binder in the sales office at work. I'm really impressed. what's the paper quality? do you get a heavier weight first page? backboard? Since I got a b&w print it's 20# paper (they use 24# for color printing). 20# is heavier than copier paper, which I seem to recall is 12# but I'm not certain. The backpage is black linen cardstock, the frontpage is clear acetate. These are better than the comb-bound booklets I bought at university for doctorate ... but not so nice I'm afraid to give 'em a good use (and knocking around). These are good, clear reproductions that are sturdy enough to stand up to hobby usage. They will lay nice and flat when opened and close without the binding you often see with plastic comb binding. The site lets you combine PDFs, add or delete pages, insert pages, renumber pages for combined PDFs ... it's a pretty robust web interface. |
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Post by Piper on Nov 17, 2020 9:44:54 GMT -6
Here is an FAQ you may find helpful. |
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Post by DungeonDevil on Nov 17, 2020 23:09:00 GMT -6
I'd love to print up my copy of WEG Star Wars "REUP" edition, but I'd have to chop the PDF in two to get the Wire-O option, since it's 510 pp. minus the two covers.
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Post by jeffb on Nov 18, 2020 7:31:08 GMT -6
??
If you want to put GH,BM and EW into one booklet but bought the separate PDFs- is that possible?
EDIT- NM. I see that is addressed.
New question- they didn't give you a hard time about printing these files?
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Post by Piper on Nov 18, 2020 7:44:01 GMT -6
?? If you want to put GH,BM and EW into one booklet but bought the separate PDFs- is that possible? EDIT- NM. I see that is addressed. New question- they didn't give you a hard time about printing these files? To address your first question, even though you answered it yourself, the only limitation to the number of PDFs you can combine is the maximum pages allowed by the binding you choose. The second part? No. In fact, that's why I switched to them. A local print shop got some attitude with me when I tried to print them locally. I even assured them they were archival copies, but no dice. So I went to PrintMe1 on the recommendation of a friend and I was very happy. |
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Post by Piper on Nov 18, 2020 7:46:38 GMT -6
I'd love to print up my copy of WEG Star Wars "REUP" edition, but I'd have to chop the PDF in two to get the Wire-O option, since it's 510 pp. minus the two covers. I really like the wire bindings, so for me it would be worth it. |
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Post by jeffb on Nov 18, 2020 7:50:33 GMT -6
?? If you want to put GH,BM and EW into one booklet but bought the separate PDFs- is that possible? EDIT- NM. I see that is addressed. New question- they didn't give you a hard time about printing these files? To address your first question, even though you answered it yourself, the only limitation to the number of PDFs you can combine is the maximum pages allowed by the binding you choose. The second part? No. In fact, that's why I switched to them. A local print shop got some attitude with me when I tried to print them locally. I even assured them they were archival copies, but no dice. So I went to PrintMe1 on the recommendation of a friend and I was very happy. Excellent. Thank you Brother! |
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Post by jeffb on Nov 18, 2020 9:44:12 GMT -6
Some old guy I know has a Bday coming up in a few days, perhaps he will ask his wife for a print copy of his OD&D SVE and a separate print copy of Supps 1-4.
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Post by DungeonDevil on Nov 18, 2020 14:00:03 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't want to jeopardise my acct with Lulu by trying to make a print-up of any D&D stuff, or any other RPG for that matter for fear that they will torpedo my acct permanently.  |
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Post by DungeonDevil on Nov 19, 2020 14:05:51 GMT -6
Early this morning I patiently sat through their online system of processing my PDF for WEG SW REUP: I had to divide the PDF in two. It took some fiddling, but I think I got it to work. In about a week I'll find out if it printed properly. The only down-side to this is that the PDF is a gorgeous full-colour presentation, and, were I to have printed it as-is, it would have set me back about $150, whereas colour-cover/BW-insides was only about $67! Colour-printing with LULU is no less expensive, sadly. |
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Post by hamurai on Nov 19, 2020 14:31:26 GMT -6
Interesting, I paid about 90€ about 2 years back when I had them print WEG SW REUP as a hardcover in full colour. It had been one of my early teen years RPG drugs, so I just had to get...  |
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Post by DungeonDevil on Nov 19, 2020 16:11:23 GMT -6
Interesting, I paid about 90€ about 2 years back when I had them print WEG SW REUP as a hardcover in full colour. It had been one of my early teen years RPG drugs, so I just had to get... REUP in hardcover with full-colour would have been sweeeeeet, but that's too pricey for this impecunious holbytla! |
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Post by Piper on Nov 19, 2020 17:39:34 GMT -6
Early this morning I patiently sat through their online system of processing my PDF for WEG SW REUP: I had to divide the PDF in two. It took some fiddling, but I think I got it to work. In about a week I'll find out if it printed properly. The only down-side to this is that the PDF is a gorgeous full-colour presentation, and, were I to have printed it as-is, it would have set me back about $150, whereas colour-cover/BW-insides was only about $67! Colour-printing with LULU is no less expensive, sadly. Cool! Let us know how it works out for you. I've had good results with them, so I'm pretty sure you'll be happy. |
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Post by tacojohn4547 on Nov 20, 2020 8:06:22 GMT -6
Interesting, I paid about 90€ about 2 years back when I had them print WEG SW REUP as a hardcover in full colour. It had been one of my early teen years RPG drugs, so I just had to get... I did this as well. I’ll post a few pics this weekend. |
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Post by tacojohn4547 on Nov 20, 2020 8:08:52 GMT -6
Image 2 of 4: my table copies of Volumes 1-3 (left) and Volumes 4-6 (right). I didn't bother designing custom covers since these are intended for reference (and abuse) not show. Back on topic, these look great, Piper! What are the page dimensions for your reference books? They look square-ish, kind of like the AS&SH boxed set books that were wire-bound. |
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Post by Piper on Nov 20, 2020 8:34:51 GMT -6
Back on topic, these look great, Piper! What are the page dimensions for your reference books? They look square-ish, kind of like the AS&SH boxed set books that were wire-bound. I got out a tape measure to double-check and the pages are 8.5 x 11 inches but I agree they look a bit squarish. Perhaps its an illusion cause by the black box surrounding the cover illo coupled with the wire coil throwing off the viewer's perception? |
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Post by tacojohn4547 on Nov 20, 2020 10:03:44 GMT -6
Back on topic, these look great, Piper! What are the page dimensions for your reference books? They look square-ish, kind of like the AS&SH boxed set books that were wire-bound. I got out a tape measure to double-check and the pages are 8.5 x 11 inches but I agree they look a bit squarish. Perhaps its an illusion cause by the black box surrounding the cover illo coupled with the wire coil throwing off the viewer's perception? Great! Yeah, must be some sort of optical illusion that’s giving that appearance. |
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Post by mgtremaine on Nov 20, 2020 10:21:48 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't want to jeopardise my acct with Lulu by trying to make a print-up of any D&D stuff, or any other RPG for that matter for fear that they will torpedo my acct permanently. Does that actually happen? Not trying to cast doubt, I've never even tried print anything on Lulu but was just wondering if you did try and print a PDF you bought and had a private thing would they actually suspend your account over it? -Mike |
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Post by tacojohn4547 on Nov 20, 2020 10:45:44 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't want to jeopardise my acct with Lulu by trying to make a print-up of any D&D stuff, or any other RPG for that matter for fear that they will torpedo my acct permanently. Does that actually happen? Not trying to cast doubt, I've never even tried print anything on Lulu but was just wondering if you did try and print a PDF you bought and had a private thing would they actually suspend your account over it? -Mike I know it used to happen, and I think it happened a lot more often than it seems to happen now. I was very leery of custom print pdfs on Lulu, for quite a while, and avoided doing so until a few years ago. And I actually had a false flag that triggered a lockdown on one of my Lulu accounts. But I was able to demonstrate that the pdf in question was legit, that the content was available freely (it was an RPG community-produced zine, that was free), that the authors and artists had already authorized the use thereof, and that there was no copyright infringement. So the account lock was lifted and my account restored. I think their degree of scrutiny has lightened up in recent years. That’s my impression anyway. Since that incident, I’ve been far more willing to do custom printing via Lulu, including TSR pdfs and things like the OD&D SVE. Also, I buy a lot of POD books on Lulu.... a lot. I don’t know it that has any bearing on whether they monitor the new projects created or monitor the purchases. But if they’re at all watching the quantities ordered, they’ll see a pattern of significant volumes ordered on my account. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 11:16:49 GMT -6
I used this site to print and bind my copy of Greyharp's compilation and my lbb Traveller rulebooks. Very satisfied with the quality and never heard of anyone having trouble with the legality of printing anything.
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Post by DungeonDevil on Nov 21, 2020 21:41:54 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't want to jeopardise my acct with Lulu by trying to make a print-up of any D&D stuff, or any other RPG for that matter for fear that they will torpedo my acct permanently. Does that actually happen? Not trying to cast doubt, I've never even tried print anything on Lulu but was just wondering if you did try and print a PDF you bought and had a private thing would they actually suspend your account over it? -Mike I've got two new books on deck ready for take-off in the next few days, one being fueled, and two more on the drafting board, so the very last thing I want to do is wreck my relationship with Lulu. I've had to deal with 25 years of gut-wrenching, blood-curdling horror with the publishing industry and made the hard decision to break ties with the business and get self-published. Lots of soul-searching to be sure. |
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Post by hamurai on Nov 22, 2020 1:56:55 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't want to jeopardise my acct with Lulu by trying to make a print-up of any D&D stuff, or any other RPG for that matter for fear that they will torpedo my acct permanently. Does that actually happen? Not trying to cast doubt, I've never even tried print anything on Lulu but was just wondering if you did try and print a PDF you bought and had a private thing would they actually suspend your account over it? -Mike My guess would be, as long as you're printing a copy for your own use, it's OK. I've had quite a few PDFs printed by several services in Germany already and never did anyone bother. And why should they? |
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Post by Piper on Nov 22, 2020 3:01:39 GMT -6
My guess would be, as long as you're printing a copy for your own use, it's OK. I've had quite a few PDFs printed by several services in Germany already and never did anyone bother. And why should they? This is my understanding as well: an archival "back-up copy" is allowed. Multiple reproductions for distribution (even private distribution with no recompense to the distributor) are not. Note: speaking generally to the membership ... I refuse to debate the ethics of USA copyright law, so please don't even start; I won't answer. They are what they are, one may either follow them or not; not my business either way. I'm merely speaking to the legalities as best I (a simple layman) understand them. |
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