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Post by Piper on Nov 19, 2020 23:20:23 GMT -6
I don't understand why D&D would be a movie and not a series. While nothing is sure until it’s actually being filmed? A series rather than a movie is a real possibility. Whether that’s a one-or-the-other sort of deal remains to be seen. |
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Post by DungeonDevil on Nov 20, 2020 4:18:14 GMT -6
Grog gamer: "I want live-action, big-screen, Old School Gygaxian-Arnesonian early RPG-cum-fantastic-Mediaeval-wargaming goodness with Frazetta-esque T&A and REHian slo-mo blood-splatter! AAARRRGHHHH!!!"
Hasbro: "You'll get emo, tattooed, spikey armour, politically-correct, triggered, Millennial, Gen-Z, chaste, null-gender rot in cheap anime straight-to-video."
Grog gamer: *facepalm* "Fine. Whatever. Due to the pandemic I'm desperate for anything."
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Post by Falconer on Nov 20, 2020 10:14:56 GMT -6
I just want The Dying Earth taped on a 1970s BBC soundstage.
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Post by Malchor on Nov 23, 2020 7:50:10 GMT -6
Whatever. Pixar’s Onward was, and is, THE D&D movie.
Note: this comment contains a smidge of sarcasm.
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Post by countingwizard on Nov 23, 2020 12:36:47 GMT -6
I just want The Dying Earth taped on a 1970s BBC soundstage. I'd support a kickstarter for this. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 12:43:03 GMT -6
Grog gamer: "I want live-action, big-screen, Old School Gygaxian-Arnesonian early RPG-cum-fantastic-Mediaeval-wargaming goodness with Frazetta-esque T&A and REHian slo-mo blood-splatter! AAARRRGHHHH!!!" Hasbro: "You'll get emo, tattooed, spikey armour, politically-correct, triggered, Millennial, Gen-Z, chaste, null-gender rot in cheap anime straight-to-video." Grog gamer: *facepalm* "Fine. Whatever. Due to the pandemic I'm desperate for anything."  |
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Post by captainjapan on Nov 23, 2020 14:25:46 GMT -6
I think I'd like a feature length Game of Thones with more magic and less talking. Fat chance of that
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Post by Piper on Dec 8, 2020 3:57:44 GMT -6
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Post by thegreyelf on Dec 8, 2020 14:31:05 GMT -6
I already have the 5 D&D movies in the Mythica Series. I'm all set, thanks.
[EDIT]Just realized I posted the above on page 1 of this thread. Oops!
Well, I'll add that also, Book of Vile Darkness wasn't half bad at all. I rather enjoy that flick. Hell, for that matter, Wrath of the Dragon God wasn't terrible.
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Post by verhaden on Dec 9, 2020 8:16:11 GMT -6
Honestly, best format for D&D would be an anthology TV series. Each season follows a different group, with possible cross-pollination, telling their own story. Bonus points if at least one of them involves the trope of regular people being transported into the fantasy world.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 8:40:51 GMT -6
Make the Dungeon the star of the D&D show - reskin Fantasy Island so that every episode is a bunch of adventures delving the depths, dying or levelling up - under the mocking wizard eye of the Dungeon Master/Dragon.
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Post by tkdco2 on Dec 9, 2020 16:29:56 GMT -6
Make the Dungeon the star of the D&D show - reskin Fantasy Island so that every episode is a bunch of adventures delving the depths, dying or levelling up - under the mocking wizard eye of the Dungeon Master/Dragon. I would actually watch that one! Did the movies gross enough to make someone want to make a new one? I've seen all three, and while I found them entertaining, I didn't think they were noteworthy. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 9:44:43 GMT -6
I just want The Dying Earth taped on a 1970s BBC soundstage. I'd kill for a "Tales from Appendix N" animated series, maybe in similar anime style to Netflix's Castlevania series. |
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Post by Piper on Dec 14, 2020 19:01:37 GMT -6
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Post by jeffb on Dec 15, 2020 18:36:11 GMT -6
I'm seeing on MEWE and such that Pine is definitely on board.
Like the guy, but he must be hard-up for work.
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Post by Piper on Dec 15, 2020 19:00:21 GMT -6
Like the guy, but he must be hard-up for work. Heh! That calls to mind a quote by Jeremy Irons. When asked about his appearance in Dungeons & Dragons: The Movie (2000) in light of his impressive acting credentials, his reply was a shrug and "I needed the money." |
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Post by jeffb on Dec 15, 2020 19:43:17 GMT -6
Like the guy, but he must be hard-up for work. Heh! That calls to mind a quote by Jeremy Irons. When asked about his appearance in Dungeons & Dragons: The Movie (2000) in light of his impressive acting credentials, his reply was a shrug and "I needed the money." |
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Post by tdenmark on Dec 16, 2020 3:45:17 GMT -6
Eps 1-3: B1 Eps 4-6: B2 After that they can upshift to AD&D material. Great nostalgia for D&D fans, but wouldn't that just be vanilla fantasy? What is really going to hook an audience in? What module, or series of modules, do you think could have a real stand out contrast from the sea of fantasy tropes? I would do the S series. Weird, unique, interesting, distinctive, and still quintessential D&D. |
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Post by Falconer on Dec 16, 2020 15:34:20 GMT -6
I would do a “cinematic universe” based on a mixture of novels and modules.
PHASE ONE
Dungeons & Dragons: White Plume Mountain
Adventurers in a funhouse dungeon. Adaptation of the S2 module and the Return To module and the Paul Kidd novel, but replace the characters with Gord, Gellor, etc. from the Gygax novels.
Soulforge
Faithful adaptation of Dragons of Autumn Twilight.
The Dark Elf
Loose adaptation of Streams of Silver.
Elminster
Very loose adaptation of Spellfire and Crown of Fire.
Dragonlance Chronicles
Obvious, but it would faithfully cover Books 2-3.
Godswar
Loose adaptation of The Avatar Trilogy.
PHASE TWO
The Dark Elf 2: Icewind Dale
Adaptation of The Crystal Shard. (Yes, I know I have it backwards.)
Strahd
Adaptation of I6 Ravenloft.
Dragonlance Legends
Obvious.
Dungeons & Dragons 2: The Temple of Elemental Evil
Adaptation of T1-4 plus characters and plot elements from the novel Artifact of Evil and a swashbuckling National Treasure treasure hunt kind of feel.
Planescape
Gonzo epic mashup of Dragons of Summer Flame + Elminster in Hell + Sigil and stuff.
Dungeons & Dragons 3: The Tomb of Horrors
Like a semi-meta, Lego Movie-style celebration of Dungeons & Dragons.
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Post by DungeonDevil on Dec 16, 2020 22:47:44 GMT -6
Eps 1-3: B1 Eps 4-6: B2 After that they can upshift to AD&D material. Great nostalgia for D&D fans, but wouldn't that just be vanilla fantasy? What is really going to hook an audience in? What module, or series of modules, do you think could have a real stand out contrast from the sea of fantasy tropes? I would do the S series. Weird, unique, interesting, distinctive, and still quintessential D&D. The brutal meatgrinder of S1 would surely turn people off IMO. S2 is a possibility. S3 would also be a fun cross-genre look at the hobby, but the budget requirements for this would be daunting. S4 is my all-time favourite module of all, and, although I love it to death, it is meant for high-lvl PCs and should be saved when the programme's characters (provided that they have survived this far) are developed enough to take on this module's challenges. That's why I think it's good to start with B1 and work ourselves upward to AD&D later. |
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Post by tkdco2 on Dec 17, 2020 5:04:51 GMT -6
Like the guy, but he must be hard-up for work. Heh! That calls to mind a quote by Jeremy Irons. When asked about his appearance in Dungeons & Dragons: The Movie (2000) in light of his impressive acting credentials, his reply was a shrug and "I needed the money." I once watched a YouTube video about Bill Mumy joining the cast of Babylon 5. He said he didn't need the money, but he wanted the money. |
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Post by tdenmark on Dec 17, 2020 6:42:21 GMT -6
The brutal meatgrinder of S1 would surely turn people off IMO. Did you know they have a way in movies, editing and stuff, where they can make it so that the lead characters don't die and that they survive by the skin of their teeth? |
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Post by verhaden on Dec 17, 2020 6:55:36 GMT -6
Heh! That calls to mind a quote by Jeremy Irons. When asked about his appearance in Dungeons & Dragons: The Movie (2000) in light of his impressive acting credentials, his reply was a shrug and "I needed the money." I once watched a YouTube video about Bill Mumy joining the cast of Babylon 5. He said he didn't need the money, but he wanted the money. Helps that B5 and JMS are great. |
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Post by Piper on Dec 17, 2020 8:33:18 GMT -6
Helps that B5 and JMS are great. [bunny trail] Agreed. B5 nearly spoiled me with it's visual novel approach to story telling. JMS actually had an idea for a story he wanted to tell. So many shows which could have benefited from a similar format (e.g. ST:VOY, BSG-remade, ENT/ST:ENT) felt like they just meandered around. While there is nothing wrong with episodic stories, sometimes a premise just begs for a long-term goal.[/bunny trail] |
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Post by thegreyelf on Dec 17, 2020 13:00:37 GMT -6
I don't think Pine needs the money--he's a bona fide A-lister with at least 4 blockbusters under his belt. It would be 5 if WW1984 weren't screwed by the Pandemic and WB had a little patience. No, but it does show that the producers are taking it seriously enough to pony up for a real star. That's actually a good sign that they believe in the project.
As for what I'd do, I tend to agree with Falconer that a shared universe series planned from the start is the right way to go. I don't know that I agree with his choices of specific works--too much rejiggering of worlds would be necessary.
If it were me, I'd pick a world. For Greyhawk, either do the slavers-giants-underdark series in like 10 or 11 films, or the Temple of Elemental Evil in 5 films to kick it all off. These would be the best way to go for Greyhawk as a world; you need to focus on the specific stories here; the world itself is a bit generic by design. From there, there's tons of options. You could do Saltmarsh. The S-series. Hell, even the Desert of Desolation series once the world and characters are established.
I'd love, personally, to see the Drizzt saga done on film, but they'd have to make so many changes to the drow to navigate the current social climate that the film would just lose too much. Other than that, Forgotten Realms is just a bit too much to work on screen. It's too gonzo, too high powered. It just doesn't feel cinematic to me. Aside from Drizzt, it's a bit too much all about the gods and epic-level heroes like Elminster. The Avatar trilogy MIGHT work. The Moonshae Isles Trilogy, maybe? The Cleric Quintet may actually have the most filmable potential of the Forgotten Realms.
The Dragonlance trilogy would certainly work--the animated film for Autumn Twilight wasn't bad, save the clumsy melding of traditional and CGI animation. And if it worked you could follow it up with the Legends trilogy. There's a lot of cinematic potential to be mined in Dragonlance. It's not my favorite world to game in, but the novels were great and it could work awesome as films. You could go back in time from there and do the Elven Nations Trilogy, which to this day is one of my favorite fantasy trilogies. Going forward to the War of Souls would be intriguing, but again, only after you've established the world with the original Chronicles AND done the Legends.
Ravenloft? Outstanding setting, but it's not traditionally D&D, so it's not what you want for the films. Same goes for Dark Sun and Planescape. They're not traditionally D&D enough to work as THE brand identity in films.
In the end, we're not likely to get any of the above. Which may be a mistake.
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Post by asaki on Dec 17, 2020 14:01:22 GMT -6
I don't really care what they do, or what universe they use, as long as it resembles D&D in some fashion, and manages to be entertaining. The first movie was pretty bunk, but the second one at least had spells and things that I recognized. Nothing will be as good as actually playing the game, so I don't expect it to be. But bonus points if they include plenty of people who are already invested in the game. Vin Diesel would be an obvious choice <3 Though I watched a clip of him playing once, and it seems like he hadn't played in quite a while. [bunny trail] Agreed. B5 nearly spoiled me with it's visual novel approach to story telling. JMS actually had an idea for a story he wanted to tell. So many shows which could have benefited from a similar format (e.g. ST:VOY, BSG-remade, ENT/ST:ENT) felt like they just meandered around. While they're nothing wrong with episodic stories, sometimes a premise just begs for a long-term goal.[/bunny trail] It is nice to have an actual Bible and a cohesive story to tell. It always bothers me when you can tell it's a bunch of different writers with different stories that don't really connect or gel at all. Episodic or not. |
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Post by DungeonDevil on Dec 17, 2020 20:26:02 GMT -6
The brutal meatgrinder of S1 would surely turn people off IMO. Did you know they have a way in movies, editing and stuff, where they can make it so that the lead characters don't die and that they survive by the skin of their teeth? Yes. I believe it's called "script immunity". They could go the other way and have the big-name actor (presumably in the lead) getting killed off early just for sheer shock value. Horror movies have been doing that for some time now, but it's already a bit stale. |
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Post by tdenmark on Dec 18, 2020 9:00:23 GMT -6
Yes. I believe it's called "script immunity". They could go the other way and have the big-name actor (presumably in the lead) getting killed off early just for sheer shock value. Horror movies have been doing that for some time now, but it's already a bit stale. I've always heard it as plot armor. Comic books have done it since...well the dawn of comic books. My point was just because the module is a meat grinder doesn't mean a show adaptation has to be. It doesn't take much to show just how dangerous it is, a few NPC deaths and the audience will get it. There are just so many great scenes to be made out of Tomb of Horrors that would look fantastic on screen. Do some Indiana Jones meets D&D action. |
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Post by Falconer on Dec 18, 2020 9:05:55 GMT -6
The brutal meatgrinder of S1 would surely turn people off IMO. Maybe we have a different understanding of meatgrinder. To me, a meatgrinder is where there is combat after combat with loads of monsters — a tedious grind. S1 is quite the opposite, I’d say. |
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Post by DungeonDevil on Dec 18, 2020 18:44:55 GMT -6
The brutal meatgrinder of S1 would surely turn people off IMO. Maybe we have a different understanding of meatgrinder. To me, a meatgrinder is where there is combat after combat with loads of monsters — a tedious grind. S1 is quite the opposite, I’d say. Sorry for the ambiguity. (*oops*) I meant the word in the sense of "PCs being disposed of in short order by the fiendish machinations of a singularly sadistic DM." |
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