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Post by tdenmark on May 27, 2020 21:31:28 GMT -6
It puzzles me that rock bands haven't been licensed for use in games more. The only one I recall is the Journey video game from the 80's that I played the heck out of at my local arcade. There are the Rock Band and Guitar Hero video games that licensed individual songs. However, where is the AC/DC boardgame? Wouldn't a Led Zeppelin card game rock? And my favorite one to ponder, why isn't there a Black Sabbath role playing game? Their songs and lyrics, especially the first 5 classic Ozzy albums and first 2 with Dio, are calling out for epic fantasy adventure! As well as some of the later albums like Tyr. And if there is any game meant to be an OSR game using the OGL it's the Sabbath RPG. If you were to design a Black Sabbath role playing game what character classes would it have? What encounters and adventures would there be? What would the setting be like? Wizards, Witches, and Neon Knights seem obvious. There are encounters like Fairies with boots, dwarves, Seventh Advent unicorns, and the terrifying Iron Man. There are so many other iconic locations like Behind the Wall of Sleep, Hole in the Sky, Gateway to Heaven, the Magic Ocean of tears. I want to play in a campaign in this setting.  |
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Post by hamurai on May 27, 2020 22:46:35 GMT -6
I don't recall that many Black Sabbath lyrics off the top of my head, but mostly song titles. So for character classes you'd have to have The Wizard with the option of Voodoo as subclass maybe, and FM might be renamed War Pigs (but those might just be a faction in the setting, like the Children of the Grave).
Encounters may also include Iron Man (or Men, maybe there are several?), Sphinx... And major NPC's include Odin and the Scarlet Pimpernel. And probably the Digital pregnant dog for a clear Sci-Fi influence.
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Post by DungeonDevil on May 27, 2020 23:28:47 GMT -6
"Demons worry when the Wizard is near!"
The Ref would be the MASTER OF REALITY.
PCs are given a Megalomania score on their character sheets.
The premiere module would be INTO THE VOID.
If your PC is a fairy he MUST wear boots -- or else.
The Scifi version would be PLANET CARAVAN.
Sorry, I'll stop now. Blame it on the sugar-rush.
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Post by tdenmark on May 28, 2020 1:43:45 GMT -6
Sorry, I'll stop now. Blame it on the sugar-rush. No, don't stop. Have more sugar if it helps create metal content like this. |
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Post by DungeonDevil on May 28, 2020 2:19:45 GMT -6
Game sessions MUST be 13 hours long. Or else.
Neon Knights could be a new PC class, but I'd imagine that such ostentatious panoply would attract a lot of attention -- esp. on night ops.
Dio used to be in a band called Elf. That should be factored into this nascent game.
New spell name: Sabbra Cadabra. Don't yet know what the effects will be...
Killing Yourself to Live: masochism grants extra xp -- even more if death is the result!
Dirty Women: I'm pretty sure that's on the Random Harlot Table of the DMG.
The evil eye is a prominent mechanic which can kill -- unless successfully blocked with another such gesture. \m/
New PC class: Supernaut!
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Post by tdenmark on May 28, 2020 2:27:04 GMT -6
Agreed, Supernaut is a necessity. But what does it do? I can picture some sort of astral projection. Got no religion, don't need no friends
Got all I want and I don't need to pretend
Don't try to reach me, 'cause I'd tear up your mind
I've seen the future and I've left it behindDefinitely sounds like a Psionicist. An opportunity to fix OD&D psionics? |
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Post by DungeonDevil on May 28, 2020 2:41:45 GMT -6
Millennium-old, lunar-travelling, future-visiting, burned-out, been-there-and-got-the-Tshirt atheist?  I don't know what he would be, but he would be SUPER! Based on their recreational substance habit at the time of recording the album, I'm sure a Supernaut is fueled by magic fairy dust!* -------------- * a.k.a plutonian nyborg |
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Post by thegreyelf on May 28, 2020 5:10:34 GMT -6
I imagine a massive conflict between technological-based war (not necessarily machinery, but raw steel and weaponry) and magic. Anti-magic Warlords vs. Witches, if you will.
Generals gather in their masses;
Just like witches at black masses;
Evil minds that plot destruction;
Sorcerer of death's construction
Both factions--the War Pigs and the Witches--are pure evil, and the PCs are raw swords-and-sorcery anti-heroes caught in the middle.
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Post by tdenmark on May 28, 2020 10:07:44 GMT -6
I can picture a Sabbath RPG looking and feeling like the Heavy Metal animation (& magazine), also Frazetta's Fire & Ice. |
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Post by simrion on May 28, 2020 10:50:54 GMT -6
Don't forget Sweetleaf and Demon Alcohol!
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Post by tdenmark on May 28, 2020 11:23:46 GMT -6
Don't forget Sweetleaf and Demon Alcohol! What lyrics would you pull from those songs and turn into game mechanics or setting material? Also, in regards to Demon Alcohol, while Ozzy's solo career does have some great concepts that would fit in well, I was trying to stay focused on Black Sabbath. |
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Post by soundchaser on May 28, 2020 11:46:07 GMT -6
The Druid carries Sweet Leaf.
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Post by stevemitchell on May 28, 2020 11:47:52 GMT -6
If you want some real metal mileage for your RPGs, you should check out Bal-Sagoth. (And then grab some monsters from Roky Erickson.)
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Post by thegreyelf on May 28, 2020 12:01:01 GMT -6
If you want some real metal mileage for your RPGs, you should check out Bal-Sagoth. (And then grab some monsters from Roky Erickson.) Ugh, nope. I prefer bands where the singers actually sing.  |
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Post by thegreyelf on May 28, 2020 12:03:00 GMT -6
The Druid carries Sweet Leaf. I mean, yeah, clearly Sweet Leaf would be a smoking herb. I'd veer away from making it akin to Mary jane, if only because that's just too easy. My question is, what would you do with PARANOID? |
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Post by soundchaser on May 28, 2020 13:13:16 GMT -6
My question is, what would you do with PARANOID? GM intrusion triggered with horror check. Mean time... a tundra scenario: Snowblind. |
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Post by tdenmark on May 28, 2020 15:02:30 GMT -6
clearly Sweet Leaf would be a smoking herb. I'd veer away from making it akin to Mary jane Agreed, that is too on-the-nose. Would be much more creative to have interesting game effects. Like Sweet Leaf can be used to step into the portal Behind the Wall of Sleep, a sort of parallel plane, not unlike the ethereal plane, where dreams & nightmares come to life and a whole other battle for the realms is going on. OK, that sounds like Stranger Things, but that's not a bad thing. Stephen King and Peter Straub wrote The Talisman which did this concept, and The Darktower series has a bit of that too. Some 80's Stephen King would fit in nicely with this whole idea I think. I might be pushing the boundaries too much now. |
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Post by tdenmark on May 28, 2020 15:03:34 GMT -6
My question is, what would you do with PARANOID? A Paranoid stat, not unlike Sanity in Call of Cthulhu. |
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Post by geoffrey on May 28, 2020 18:48:52 GMT -6
RULES:AD&D Monster Manual AD&D Fiend Folio AD&D Players Handbook AD&D Dungeon Masters Guide SETTING:Necromancer's Wilderlands MODULES:The Lichway (from White Dwarf) The Halls of Tizun Thane (from White Dwarf) Clark Peterson's Tomb of Abysthor Bill Webb's Rappan Athuk S1: Tomb of Horrors INSPIRATIONAL READING:REH's Kull stories REH's Conan stories Now that is metal. 
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Post by Vile Traveller on May 28, 2020 19:28:28 GMT -6
And if there is any game meant to be an OSR game using the OGL it's the Sabbath RPG. I approve of this. It's what I always wanted LotFP to be. |
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Post by waysoftheearth on May 28, 2020 20:33:29 GMT -6
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Post by Vile Traveller on May 28, 2020 21:21:41 GMT -6
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Post by waysoftheearth on May 28, 2020 23:00:16 GMT -6
Awesomeness. What's super cool is that the hairstyles haven't changed in 50 years |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 0:47:58 GMT -6
Paranoid is a second level magic-user spell:
The target realizes all is not as it seems. One or more of his allies are in cahoots with the party's adversaries. The target is immobilized for one or two rounds (roll a die: odds = 1; even = 2), as he scrutinizes his fellow adventurers to identify the fifth columnist(s). After this period, the target must roll another saving throw. If he succeeds, he shakes the paranoia off; if he fails, roll 1d3 and consult the the following table:
1: The target has identified the traitor, whom he attacks for another one or two rounds while raging about the traitor's betrayal. Determine the traitor's identity by random die roll.
2: The target races over to the member of the party he trusts the most (determine the identity of this person randomly if necessary) and hysterically insists that the others have betrayed them. The target tries to grapple this trusted colleague to get his full attention for one or two rounds. Any grappling check may be opposed.
3: The target is convinced that all of the others have betrayed the target. He flees for his life as fast as possible, discarding anything that encumbers his flight, for another one or two rounds.
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Post by DungeonDevil on May 29, 2020 1:03:44 GMT -6
I can picture a Sabbath RPG looking and feeling like the Heavy Metal animation (& magazine), also Frazetta's Fire & Ice. I'd be happy with a HEAVY METAL RPG -- tons of various settings, styles, themes each with their own distinct set of rules. Two of my faves would be Neverwhere/Den and the world of Taarna. |
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Post by tdenmark on May 29, 2020 21:27:48 GMT -6
Alright, to recap what we've got here.
The world is at war between Technology and Magic.
War Pigs, a sort of techno-alliance of corrupt politicians and generals versus powerful magic wielding Witches.
Classes
Supernaut (a sort of Psionicist)
Wizard
Druid
Fighting-Man (like on the cover of Paranoid)
There is another dimension Behind the Wall of Sleep that can be entered different ways
Magic
Psionically
Through a magic herb known as Sweet Leaf
Paranoid is either a condition or a spell (maybe both)
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Post by magremore on Jun 1, 2020 6:27:22 GMT -6
How about a witch class, Country Girl? (one of the most underrated Sabbath songs imo)
Spells/Abilities:
Conjure elemental/demon/stalker (“She was up from a nether world”)
Fire resistance or immunity (“Her eyes were an endless flame”)
Lightning (“holy lightning”)
Charm (“Desire with a special name”, “Her smile was a winter song”)
Kill (“made to snatch your soul away”)
Neon Knights are maybe paladins (“Blessed by the night, holy and bright”)
Sabbra Cadabra I think would have to be a love spell.
Rat Salad would definitely be served in any tavern.
Sign of the Southern Cross, possibly indicative of a cleric class, or maybe an anti-cleric order? Or maybe a ritual (“Giving life to those who died”) involving speaking the word from a book, reciting arcane knowledge (“whispers of forgotten pslams”) and breaking a crystal ball.
Hand of Doom, not a literal hand but a flower that yields some ability—physical? magical?—something powerful but with an increasing chance of addiction with each use, once addicted the user must be in constant supply or else suffer severe withdrawal symptoms potentially permanent loss of constitution points.
Think the War Pigs would be aligned with the black magic powers (they're similar to the witches at black masses, not opposed), perhaps lead by the self-styled Lord of This World.
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Post by kenmeister on Jun 1, 2020 10:06:24 GMT -6
Put me down for writing the adventure "Children Of The Grave".
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Post by clownboss on Jun 2, 2020 7:10:01 GMT -6
I used to have story ideas for Black Sabbath and to me it was more rooted in the present of the time, like the Vietnam War and stuff. The story goes that the more evil is being commited, the more humanity is being pushed towards war, death and violence, that Satan gains power and every single soul that died on Earth comes to join his massive undead/demonic army. His agents are the one that incite the war and keep fueling the fire. Then The Wizard appeared from another dimension of Good that combats Satan and he picked a couple of conscientious soldiers with pure hearts to become the "chosen ones", the "agents of good", who will dessert the military and go rogue in order to stop this demonic influence before Satan gains an unstoppable force. The Wizard imbued the chosen ones with amazing agility, strength and resilience and they go to fight monsters or the large-scale human war machine. It's a story that later goes crazy and meta and goes throughout time and space. You'll have the time-traveling Iron Man trying to correct this problem himself and going awry, nuclear apocalypses, alternate dimensions and timelines, and the ultimate goal of the campaign is to break this vicious cycle and prevent The Symptom of the Universe.
I used to have the "Evil Woman" from the cover of the first album and the "blackleaf"(modeled after Sweet Leaf) in my campaigns too, lol, although they were clasically medieval
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Post by Vile Traveller on Jun 2, 2020 7:47:36 GMT -6
Speaking of Black Sabbath, it's kind of weird - my neighbour's night-time piano practice keeps me awake, but when I then crank Sabbath up to maximum volume I drift right off ...
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