Roll20 resources? OD&D character sheets, etc.?

[Malchor]

Apr 8, 2020 9:33:21 GMT -6 delta said:

Just checked it out, thanks for making it Malchor !

I might have picked a more clearly readable font for the entries, but it's the sheet I'm most likely to use at this point.

Also, you don't think you want a field for Move rate?

For entries I went with something condensed as I was not sure how well the modifiers would fit. I might switch to Patrick Hand which is wider, but also more easier to read.

EDIT: I changes Encumbrance to Encumbrance/Movement.

Thank you for the feedback.


EDIT: I relent on the font, Sue Ellen Francisco has been replaced with Patrick Hand, that should hit Roll20 on 4/21.

[Malchor]

Apr 7, 2020 13:42:29 GMT -6 hamurai said:

ffilz : It's called "Original 1st Edition" in the character sheet list.

For the record, I did not name it "Original 1st Edition." Not sure how they landed on that name. 

[Bruce The Black]

I am a long time roll20 DM. I have like 4,000 hours DMing 5E. I have been playing D&D since the old days at the start of AD&D though we mixed OD&D with AD&D and Basic back then.

While I do like modern games some, I have found the rules encourage the players more and more to play their character sheets instead of their characters. I found the OSR a while back but my computer skills just suck and there was never a sheet for me to use that wasn't so friggin complicated it boggled the mind. Imagine needing six pages of character sheet to play BX!

Thank you so much for making the sheet. I will put it to good use I can assure you.

I can't thank you enough!

Now to sit down and start work on a OD&D game.

[Merias]

Malchor, thank you for making this sheet and putting in the effort to get it listed officially! I tested it today and it looks great, there are a just a few issues I noticed.

• The save 'poison' is misspelled as 'posion'
• The save 'stone' appears to be missing in the actual sheet when I create it new, although it is in the sheet preview.
• I have layout issues, maybe it is my browser although it is a relatively recent stable build of Firefox (68.7.0esr). Some of the fields overlap and some overflow outside of the background shading (class/level title, open door/listen, saving throws, first line under equipment).

Here is a screenshot so you can see:

[Malchor]

Apr 11, 2020 8:33:20 GMT -6 Merias said:

Malchor, thank you for making this sheet and putting in the effort to get it listed officially! I tested it today and it looks great, there are a just a few issues I noticed.

• The save 'poison' is misspelled as 'posion'
• The save 'stone' appears to be missing in the actual sheet when I create it new, although it is in the sheet preview.
• I have layout issues, maybe it is my browser although it is a relatively recent stable build of Firefox (68.7.0esr). Some of the fields overlap and some overflow outside of the background shading (class/level title, open door/listen, saving throws, first line under equipment).

Merias, thanks for the feedback.

The typos and missing save for Stone are fixed and on GitHub, they should be release on Tuesday.

Thanks also for sharing the screen shot. In addition to above fixes, I changed the way layout is handled so it is slightly fluid which will hopefully fix your layout issue.

[Merias]

Apr 11, 2020 11:23:02 GMT -6 Malchor said:

Merias, thanks for the feedback.

The typos and missing save for Stone are fixed and on GitHub, they should be release on Tuesday.

Thanks also for sharing the screen shot. In addition to above fixes, I changed the way layout is handled so it is slightly fluid which will hopefully fix your layout issue.

Thank you, I'll give it a try next week and report back.

[ffilz]

Apr 11, 2020 11:23:02 GMT -6 Malchor said:

Apr 11, 2020 8:33:20 GMT -6 Merias said:

Malchor, thank you for making this sheet and putting in the effort to get it listed officially! I tested it today and it looks great, there are a just a few issues I noticed.

• The save 'poison' is misspelled as 'posion'
• The save 'stone' appears to be missing in the actual sheet when I create it new, although it is in the sheet preview.
• I have layout issues, maybe it is my browser although it is a relatively recent stable build of Firefox (68.7.0esr). Some of the fields overlap and some overflow outside of the background shading (class/level title, open door/listen, saving throws, first line under equipment).

Merias, thanks for the feedback.

The typos and missing save for Stone are fixed and on GitHub, they should be release on Tuesday.

Thanks also for sharing the screen shot. In addition to above fixes, I changed the way layout is handled so it is slightly fluid which will hopefully fix your layout issue.

So is there a way to test sheets outside of Roll20? I'd be happy to help test sheets so more issues can be ironed out before pushing them into Roll20 itself.

Hmm, also, if that capability existed, I could create sheets myself and find folks willing to submit them for me...

[chicagowiz]

Malchor - I used your OD&D sheets for my Roll20 one shot today, thank you! Well done!

[Malchor]

Apr 11, 2020 16:41:07 GMT -6 chicagowiz said:

Malchor - I used your OD&D sheets for my Roll20 one shot today, thank you! Well done!

Awesome, glad it was useful.

Wish I could have joined i you in B1.

I'm running a one shot Monday at 8pm ET if any want to join in: app.roll20.net/join/6026735/I-xkTw

[chicagowiz]

Malchor - Ugh, this Monday is already spoken for by family. I will keep my eyes open for future one shots. I hope the game goes great!

FWIW - my players want to continue delving Quasqueton, so we will be having future sessions. I kinda like doing these mini-campaigns!

[Malchor]

Apr 12, 2020 10:37:42 GMT -6 chicagowiz said:

Malchor - Ugh, this Monday is already spoken for by family. I will keep my eyes open for future one shots. I hope the game goes great!

FWIW - my players want to continue delving Quasqueton, so we will be having future sessions. I kinda like doing these mini-campaigns!

Short mini-campaigns are a great way to test out variants rules.

One heads up. I fixed a typo in the code that stores Platinum pieces data. This will cause the value to go to zero on Tuesday, so store those someplace else. I made the decision to fix it now before too many people use the sheet.

[dicebro]

Mar 28, 2020 11:00:07 GMT -6 hamurai said:

Mar 27, 2020 5:30:59 GMT -6 aldarron said:

I'm curious, what exactly did they tell you?

Aye, that'd be interesting. Maybe if more folks would be interested they'd answer differently. Depending on what they actually said.

I have been looking, but I can’t find it. Perhaps it was just a troll with better html skills than mine.

[dicebro]

Mar 28, 2020 20:52:53 GMT -6 Malchor said:

Mar 27, 2020 5:30:59 GMT -6 aldarron said:

I'm curious, what exactly did they tell you?

I dunno. They seemed cool about an OD&D sheet when I asked, so I coded one.

The OD&D sheet I coded was submitted. There is a pull request on GitHub. So, barring some issue, it should be on the siteTuesday or Wednesday.

Thanks! I want to emphasize that I love roll20.  I haven’t had problems with it, other than audio. I am going to assume that the poop came from a troll as There are a few jokers on roll20 who try to mess with folks. 

[aldarron]

So here is a map question, or rather a mapping question.

Ideally, the mapper should be drawing the map as they players explore. So I notice Roll20 does have a drawing sheet that seems to be grided and I assume a player mapper could draw on that for everyone to see. (yes?)

However the drawing sheet is limited in size. So if/when the mapper needs a new "sheet" is there a way for them to do that? Can they save the previous sheet/map?

Really I'm looking for four things in an online game:
1) a way for a player mapper to map during the game for all to see.
2) a dice roller
3) a video chat.
4) character sheets that player and DM can access at the same time.

That seems simple enough but I'm having a hard time identifying resources with all or most of these features together.

[chicagowiz]

Apr 15, 2020 6:30:08 GMT -6 aldarron said:

So here is a map question, or rather a mapping question.

Ideally, the mapper should be drawing the map as they players explore. So I notice Roll20 does have a drawing sheet that seems to be grided and I assume a player mapper could draw on that for everyone to see. (yes?)

However the drawing sheet is limited in size. So if/when the mapper needs a new "sheet" is there a way for them to do that? Can they save the previous sheet/map?

Really I'm looking for four things in an online game:
1) a way for a player mapper to map during the game for all to see.
2) a dice roller
3) a video chat.
4) character sheets that player and DM can access at the same time.

That seems simple enough but I'm having a hard time identifying resources with all or most of these features together.

1. They can do that in Roll20 by the drawing tools that everyone can use. If they need a new sheet, you (the GM) can create a new map and drag the "ribbon" (which marks which map they're looking at) to it.
2. Roll20. Typed commands or use the tool from the toolbar on the left side of the screen.
3. Zoom. I went ahead and got a yearly sub along w/a coupon that made my cost < $10/mo. If not Zoom, then Google Hangouts will work.
4. Roll20. They have them for OD&D (thanks @melchor !) and they work great!

[ffilz]

The GM can enlarge the map in Roll20, I don't know if there's a limit to the overall size. One nice thing is it also includes a measuring ruler and can do multi-step measuring (so you can measure the length of a path that twists and turns).

There's also a fog of war feature that allows the GM to upload a map, align a grid to it, and then cover it up, revealing it bit by bit.

So far I have not used the Roll20 character sheets because they don't match the games I play (1977 Classic Traveller with SOME additional skills [Roll20 Classic Traveller sheet has fixed skill list], and RuneQuest 1 [closest is RQ3]). At least we now have a good OD&D sheet. Instead I use Google Docs and Sheets that also has the advantage that any player can see or edit anything, which allows for shared NPCs, or players taking over the PC of a non-present player (for this reason I prefer GM owned tokens, then I can allow any player to move them).

[Malchor]

Apr 15, 2020 6:30:08 GMT -6 aldarron said:

Really I'm looking for four things in an online game:
1) a way for a player mapper to map during the game for all to see.
2) a dice roller
3) a video chat.
4) character sheets that player and DM can access at the same time.

That seems simple enough but I'm having a hard time identifying resources with all or most of these features together.

Answering this two way.

With Roll20 only:
1) In Roll20, there is a virtual table top. The DM can use it to place a map and reveal as they go, let the players draw on it to map. The scale of the grid and size of the area is controlled by the DM and they can provide multiple "sheets". The DM can also ignore this area.

2) Roll20 has dice rolling well covered.

3) Roll20 has voice and video chat built in—though most people use other service for this.

4) Roll20 has this. 


Without Roll20 at all:
1) Let the mapper use paper or let them use Google Slides (which can also be used by the DM for battle maps).

2) Discord has dice bots, I use Sidekick github.com/ArtemGr/Sidekick

3) Discord for voice. Hangouts for voice and video.

4) Google Sheets docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1kNCi_QHhsDeL5eruLOnIzPZAUhYXpK3G2jamBVkSw/edit?usp=sharing

I'm still not 100% sold on Roll20, I'm still trying the With Roll20 option, but might switch to without. 

[hamurai]

In Roll20 you can also just give the players a grid and have them draw lines as a dungeon map. No need to prepare a map for them if you don't want to.

[aldarron]

Okay, you guys are selling me on roll20, sounds like I have the option of either uploading a blank piece of grid paper "map" and letiing the mapper draw on that or using the blank grid that is already there. They could probably take screen shots to preserve it if nothing else. I'll give it a try.

Oh, just as an FYI I came across a decent dice roller here rolldicewithfriends.com/

[chicagowiz]

There are some good newbie videos/tutorials for Roll20 on YouTube, one series is done by Larry of "Follow Me and Die" blog/podcast, an OSR guy. They're good! www.youtube.com/channel/UCQzQrkQxGOjrRWOe0RGFPgw

And if you need some help, I could hop on Roll20 w/you at some point and share what I know. Maybe other folks would as well? (We could do an impromptu OD&D Proboards virtual gettogether! Bring your brews!)

[Malchor]

Apr 16, 2020 5:22:50 GMT -6 aldarron said:

Okay, you guys are selling me on roll20, sounds like I have the option of either uploading a blank piece of grid paper "map" and letiing the mapper draw on that or using the blank grid that is already there. They could probably take screen shots to preserve it if nothing else. I'll give it a try.

Oh, just as an FYI I came across a decent dice roller here rolldicewithfriends.com/

Yeah, I left to the option that the GM can doodle a room and a few shapes for the players and monsters. This is what I plan to do in my next game.

[ffilz]

Apr 16, 2020 5:22:50 GMT -6 aldarron said:

Okay, you guys are selling me on roll20, sounds like I have the option of either uploading a blank piece of grid paper "map" and letiing the mapper draw on that or using the blank grid that is already there. They could probably take screen shots to preserve it if nothing else. I'll give it a try.

Oh, just as an FYI I came across a decent dice roller here rolldicewithfriends.com/

You don't need to upload a grid, Roll20 has a grid that you can use. And that grid can be expanded.