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Post by havard on Mar 3, 2016 15:41:20 GMT -6
Hey, since I've been talking about Chainmail elsewhere lately, perhaps I should learn more about the game. How many editions were there of Chainmail and what were the main changes between them? Does anyone know what the proto-version that apparently was distributed in 1970 contained? -Havard
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Post by Finarvyn on Mar 3, 2016 19:00:31 GMT -6
I don't have my notes handy, but this is what I recall off of the top of my head: 1st Printing = Guidon Games = Goldenrod cover = 1971 2nd Printing = Guidon Games = Goldenrod cover = 1972 3rd Printing = TSR = Silver cover = 1975 5th+ Printing = TSR = Silver cover = ??
My understanding is that the base Chainmail rules didn't change much from printing to printing (and I'm not sure the term "edition" should be used here since there weren't any major structural differences). The number of spells in the Fantasy Supplent gradually grew from 6 spells in the 1971 ruls to 8 in 1972 and then rose to 16 spells in the 1975 rules.
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Post by derv on Mar 3, 2016 19:25:58 GMT -6
Hey, since I've been talking about Chainmail elsewhere lately, perhaps I should learn more about the game. How many editions were there of Chainmail and what were the main changes between them? Does anyone know what the proto-version that apparently was distributed in 1970 contained? -Havard I think some might be surprised at what they discover if they actually play Chainmail. As to your "proto-version" question, check out Jon Petersons blog. He posted the original LGTSA rules from the Domesday Book #5 in their entirety. It's a excellent and informative post to boot. Playing at the World
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Post by jmccann on Mar 3, 2016 22:56:24 GMT -6
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Post by havard on Mar 4, 2016 13:11:14 GMT -6
Thank you gentlemen! I think the version I have is the 3rd edition. Those links are very helpful. -Havard
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Post by jacar on Mar 4, 2016 14:44:03 GMT -6
There were some cosmetic changes to the fantasy supplement between 6th and 7th printing. Hobbits became halflings and balrogs disappeared. There were probably a few others. These were required to satisfy an IP issue between the Tolkien estate and TSR.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 7:38:48 GMT -6
There were some cosmetic changes to the fantasy supplement between 6th and 7th printing. Hobbits became halflings and balrogs disappeared. There were probably a few others. These were required to satisfy an IP issue between the Tolkien estate and TSR. As I understand it the Tolkien Estate was not involved at all in this, as the whole IP issue being brought up by the IMO extremely evil Saul Zaentz whose biggest claim to fame is all of the millions of dollars that he personally cheated the Creedence Clearwater Revival out of which is a matter of record. Middle-earth Enterprises, formerly known as Tolkien Enterprises, is a trading name for a division of The Saul Zaentz Company, located in Berkeley, California are the ones who contacted TSR. J. R. R. Tolkien, the author of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, sold the film, stage and merchandising rights of those works to United Artists in 1968, who in turn sold them to The Saul Zaentz Company in 1976 which licenses them through Tolkien Enterprises and has delayed . United Artists not Tolkien were the ones who chose to do business with the IMO reprehensible Saul Zaentz.
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Post by jacar on Mar 7, 2016 13:15:54 GMT -6
I would have never known. He certainly acquired the rights about that time. Certainly John Fogerty thought he was a tool. Some folks just want their money I suppose. Shame. He produced some good movies too. He was a driving reason that Peter Jackson was not going to direct the Hobbit movie. In retrospect, even Jackson couldn't save that wreck.
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