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Post by geoffrey on Sept 26, 2014 9:21:10 GMT -6
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Post by Merctime on Sept 26, 2014 9:32:12 GMT -6
Man, I'm so stoked I got my hardback then! Hey, geoffrey, even if it's hardback, will there be a potential to buy an OD&D one later on maybe? Even if it's maybe, that's way better than a no! |
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Post by geoffrey on Sept 26, 2014 10:38:13 GMT -6
Hey, geoffrey, even if it's hardback, will there be a potential to buy an OD&D one later on maybe? Even if it's maybe, that's way better than a no! Maybe, but probably not. Here's the skinny: 1. LotFP has the contractual right to sell the current publication of Carcosa (print and pdf) until Dec. 2016. At that time I can either A) tell James he can't sell it anymore, or B) extend our 5-year contract. James has been such a great publisher that it's hard to imagine me telling him to shove off. 2. I am about 40% finished on a new Carcosa book that details a hex map (directly south of the published map) the same size as the hex map in Carcosa. This one has 235 hexes with a point of interest in each hex. (The other 100-something hexes on the map are pure water and thus don't get a point of interest.) Each hex is described in considerably more detail than the terse descriptions in the published Carcosa book. I'd estimate an average of 200 to 250 words per hex. (But like I said, I have typed only about 40% of the hex descriptions so far, so that average could change.) I plan to have this manuscript finished by Dec. 31 of this year, and to submit it for consideration to LotFP at that time. 3. If LotFP publishes the new Carcosa book, then LotFP might also re-print the current Carcosa book (as mentioned above). I'm afraid that I'm having a hard time envisioning a chain of events leading to the re-publication of the OD&D Carcosa. I don't even have a printer anymore that could handle printing them! Perhaps, perhaps I might someday work out a deal with James to distribute the OD&D Carcosa as a pdf, perhaps even as a print-on-demand. |
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Post by terje on Sept 27, 2014 6:50:05 GMT -6
2. I am about 40% finished on a new Carcosa book that details a hex map (directly south of the published map) the same size as the hex map in Carcosa. This one has 235 hexes with a point of interest in each hex. (The other 100-something hexes on the map are pure water and thus don't get a point of interest.) Each hex is described in considerably more detail than the terse descriptions in the published Carcosa book. I'd estimate an average of 200 to 250 words per hex. (But like I said, I have typed only about 40% of the hex descriptions so far, so that average could change.) I plan to have this manuscript finished by Dec. 31 of this year, and to submit it for consideration to LotFP at that time. Wow, that is such great news! Feel free to tell us of any cool / awesome / terrible places on the new map!  |
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Post by Finarvyn on Sept 27, 2014 15:49:21 GMT -6
I'm so happy with the OD&D version that I never bothered to track down the LotFP version. A shame that the OD&D flavor is so hard to find.  |
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Post by tkdco2 on Sept 27, 2014 21:37:40 GMT -6
One thing you can do is see if your local game store regularly receives donations. That's how I found the expurgated OD&D version.
I also know they do special orders, but that may be difficult at this stage.
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Post by foxroe on Oct 1, 2014 20:21:20 GMT -6
While no longer available (in physical form) on the LotFP site, I managed to get a copy from a States-side game store (some still sell on eBay/Amazon if you look). I also got the PDF from LotFP (highly recommended). Quick Off-topic Review: WOW. Simply one of the best (if not THE best) "OSR" products available. If you're brain doesn't atomically detonate with a million ulfire ideas while reading through this, then you are a dead mummy brain. The physical product, the artwork, and the additional hex descriptions are more than worth the asking price. As for the "OD&D" version, the new version still contains all of the original material (I have both) and then some, but not enough that it "negates" the "olde-schoole" feel of the original. That there is even more Carcosa pustulating out of Geoffery's Protoplasmic Vat of Ineffible Madness this year...? AWESOME in a Hex 1208 sort of way.  |
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Post by cadriel on Oct 2, 2014 5:15:28 GMT -6
So, Geoffrey: will there be new material aside from hexmap details in the follow-up book for Carcosa?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 6:41:25 GMT -6
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Post by Merctime on Oct 2, 2014 8:31:53 GMT -6
Dang! I went to that link hoping for an OD&D version! Hehe. Well, the LotFP is a great book, too... I just have one already  |
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Post by dizzysaxophone on Oct 2, 2014 11:54:30 GMT -6
Dang! I went to that link hoping for an OD&D version! Hehe. Well, the LotFP is a great book, too... I just have one already Merctime, I'm in the same boat as you. I have the LotFP and it is probably the nicest quality book I own, but I have always had that scratch to get an OD&D copy. |
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Post by geoffrey on Oct 2, 2014 12:15:24 GMT -6
So, Geoffrey: will there be new material aside from hexmap details in the follow-up book for Carcosa? Yes, but with two main differences from the first Carcosa book: 1. The overall structure of this book is a list of hex descriptions. Thus much (but not all) of the new stuff is found in the hex descriptions rather than in its own section. 2. In terms of percentages, there are fewer new monsters, new rituals, etc. in this book than in the first. This book is aimed more at the persons who have basically said: "I'm having a hard time picturing what people/monsters/entities actually do in Carcosa. I'm also having trouble picturing just how stuff works in Carcosa, so to speak." The hex descriptions in the published Carcosa are rather terse, inviting the Referee to flesh them out according to his own lights. These hex descriptions in the new book are already fleshed-out to a considerable extent (probably averaging 225 to 250 words per hex), also indicating how the encounter in a given hex interacts (if at all) with the stuff in other hexes. If the first Carcosa book was like 1977's Wilderlands of High Fantasy, this book is more like Necromancer's Wilderlands boxed set. There are pluses and minuses to both approaches, of course. |
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Post by kesher on Oct 2, 2014 16:56:26 GMT -6
geoffrey, this sounds awesometastic. Consider me pre-ordered! 
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Post by mannclay on Oct 5, 2014 9:26:28 GMT -6
So, Geoffrey: will there be new material aside from hexmap details in the follow-up book for Carcosa? Yes, but with two main differences from the first Carcosa book: 1. The overall structure of this book is a list of hex descriptions. Thus much (but not all) of the new stuff is found in the hex descriptions rather than in its own section. 2. In terms of percentages, there are fewer new monsters, new rituals, etc. in this book than in the first. This book is aimed more at the persons who have basically said: "I'm having a hard time picturing what people/monsters/entities actually do in Carcosa. I'm also having trouble picturing just how stuff works in Carcosa, so to speak." The hex descriptions in the published Carcosa are rather terse, inviting the Referee to flesh them out according to his own lights. These hex descriptions in the new book are already fleshed-out to a considerable extent (probably averaging 225 to 250 words per hex), also indicating how the encounter in a given hex interacts (if at all) with the stuff in other hexes. If the first Carcosa book was like 1977's Wilderlands of High Fantasy, this book is more like Necromancer's Wilderlands boxed set. There are pluses and minuses to both approaches, of course. This is fabulous, I am all over this! Thank you geoffrey for continuing to publish. |
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Post by otiv on Oct 9, 2014 9:15:52 GMT -6
Hey, geoffrey, even if it's hardback, will there be a potential to buy an OD&D one later on maybe? Even if it's maybe, that's way better than a no! Maybe, but probably not. Here's the skinny: 1. LotFP has the contractual right to sell the current publication of Carcosa (print and pdf) until Dec. 2016. At that time I can either A) tell James he can't sell it anymore, or B) extend our 5-year contract. James has been such a great publisher that it's hard to imagine me telling him to shove off. 2. I am about 40% finished on a new Carcosa book that details a hex map (directly south of the published map) the same size as the hex map in Carcosa. This one has 235 hexes with a point of interest in each hex. (The other 100-something hexes on the map are pure water and thus don't get a point of interest.) Each hex is described in considerably more detail than the terse descriptions in the published Carcosa book. I'd estimate an average of 200 to 250 words per hex. (But like I said, I have typed only about 40% of the hex descriptions so far, so that average could change.) I plan to have this manuscript finished by Dec. 31 of this year, and to submit it for consideration to LotFP at that time. 3. If LotFP publishes the new Carcosa book, then LotFP might also re-print the current Carcosa book (as mentioned above). I'm afraid that I'm having a hard time envisioning a chain of events leading to the re-publication of the OD&D Carcosa. I don't even have a printer anymore that could handle printing them! Perhaps, perhaps I might someday work out a deal with James to distribute the OD&D Carcosa as a pdf, perhaps even as a print-on-demand. This is fantastic! Can we anticipate some Carcosan nautical adventures? |
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Post by cadriel on Oct 9, 2014 9:20:09 GMT -6
So, Geoffrey: will there be new material aside from hexmap details in the follow-up book for Carcosa? Yes, but with two main differences from the first Carcosa book: 1. The overall structure of this book is a list of hex descriptions. Thus much (but not all) of the new stuff is found in the hex descriptions rather than in its own section. 2. In terms of percentages, there are fewer new monsters, new rituals, etc. in this book than in the first. This book is aimed more at the persons who have basically said: "I'm having a hard time picturing what people/monsters/entities actually do in Carcosa. I'm also having trouble picturing just how stuff works in Carcosa, so to speak." The hex descriptions in the published Carcosa are rather terse, inviting the Referee to flesh them out according to his own lights. These hex descriptions in the new book are already fleshed-out to a considerable extent (probably averaging 225 to 250 words per hex), also indicating how the encounter in a given hex interacts (if at all) with the stuff in other hexes. If the first Carcosa book was like 1977's Wilderlands of High Fantasy, this book is more like Necromancer's Wilderlands boxed set. There are pluses and minuses to both approaches, of course. I don't have the Necromancer Wilderlands products, just the originals. How would you say it compares to Isle of the Unknown? I'm guessing there won't be as many monsters / statues / NPCs as in that book. |
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Post by geoffrey on Oct 9, 2014 13:12:57 GMT -6
This is fantastic! Can we anticipate some Carcosan nautical adventures? This map has hundreds of miles of coastline. While my players have not so far gone sailing on the oceans of Carcosa, there is certainly nothing to prevent other players from doing so! |
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Post by geoffrey on Oct 9, 2014 13:30:34 GMT -6
I don't have the Necromancer Wilderlands products, just the originals. How would you say it compares to Isle of the Unknown? I'm guessing there won't be as many monsters / statues / NPCs as in that book. Hmmm. I'm having a rough time comparing it with Isle of the Unknown. The forthcoming Carcosa book certainly doesn't have a lot of random monsters, statues, or Isle-style NPC spell-casters. Think of the original Carcosa's hex descriptions in terms of the villages, monsters, NPCs, weird things, etc. That same general distribution applies in the Carcosa sequel. Here's the difference: Take a look at (for example) the encounter in hex 1602: 'Village of 370 Dolm Men ruled by "the Final Falling Star", a chaotic Hero' In the Carcosa sequel, a village such as that will have a much fuller write-up, probably around 250 words, telling some of the interesting things about the village and its inhabitants, some important NPCs in the village, plot hooks that PCs might want to investigate, and (where appropriate) the village's connection with nearby hexes. Or take a look at the encounter in hex 1514: "5 Mummies" Again, in the Carcosa sequel a monster encounter such as that would have a much fuller write-up, giving the monsters a lair (if appropriate), treasure (if any), motivations, and connections (if any) with surrounding hexes. In short, it's the Carcosa we all know and love (or hate! ), but including details on the way I flesh-out Carcosa in my own campaign. |
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Post by Merctime on Oct 9, 2014 13:52:20 GMT -6
In short, it's the Carcosa we all know and love (or hate! ), but including details on the way I flesh-out Carcosa in my own campaign. Bold emphasis mine... Now, if this isn't an exciting bit of advertising... I don't know what is! This sounds great, geoffrey! |
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Post by tkdco2 on Oct 9, 2014 15:00:44 GMT -6
Sounds good to me! I'm always curious about the personal touches people make in their campaigns, especially the creator. |
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Post by mannclay on Oct 9, 2014 16:51:17 GMT -6
geoffrey ... pardon more questions, i know you are getting many now bcuz of the news but...what's your guestimate on a time frame to purchase the new book? Is that even answerable at this point?
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Post by geoffrey on Oct 9, 2014 20:48:16 GMT -6
geoffrey ... pardon more questions, i know you are getting many now bcuz of the news but...what's your guestimate on a time frame to purchase the new book? Is that even answerable at this point? I am a little over half finished with writing/compiling the book. My personal deadline is to submit it to James Raggi (Lamentations of the Flame Princess) for publication on Dec. 31, 2014. Assuming he wishes to publish it, then I would imagine it coming out at the end of 2015. |
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