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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 24, 2014 15:52:21 GMT -6
I was watching the latest remake of The Time Machine last night, and I thought< "Hey, why not add Morlocks to Carcosa? They might make a good fit."
The Morlocks may not be a separate race. They may be cannibalistic savages who live underground. Maybe they be one human race, or all of them coming together. Then again, they could be inhuman monsters. Not sure what abilities they may have.
Any ideas on how to do this?
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Post by Lorgalis on Aug 25, 2014 8:38:40 GMT -6
Easy.
They live in the hollow world of the planet or in a realm in between the upper and inner world.
They would be strong, dislike/repelled by fire light, possess low light vision, would shamble
at a lower pace.
Some lost forgotten experiment, survivors if a botched city teleport accident, dimensional shift survivors from long ago, aliens, devolved nen, dreams/ nightmares made real by the great slumbering brain in a hidden facility, vat grown beasties of alien species 2345, servants if an elder thing, slaves of an ancient sorcerer, and the list goes on.
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Post by jdjarvis on Aug 25, 2014 9:22:02 GMT -6
Sure why not? I've used morlocks, pygmies, amazons, and weirder. No reason a village of 200 men has to be 200 homosapiens chromatic carcosans. You can keep the colors of course and let players wonder " gee the 200 frail orange men of this village have no ruler or weapons...."
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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 25, 2014 16:22:12 GMT -6
Maybe the Mongrelmen or the Broken Ones from AD&D can be used. Imagine a race of savages whose skin is a mix of all the 13 human races, in irregular splotches. No two patterns would be the same. Definitely sensitive to light. Extra strength and/or reflexes? Psionics?
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Post by burningtorso on Aug 25, 2014 23:55:34 GMT -6
The Trogs in Cameron DuBeers Carcosa adventure "Obregon’s Dishonor" are somewhat similar to Morlocks.
If you have "Realms of Crawling Chaos", you could also use the White Apes, Half-Apes and/or Subhumans as templates and optional player character types. Just change name and some descriptions.
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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 26, 2014 0:30:13 GMT -6
I have been thinking of adding the White Apes to Carcosa. They would make great Morlocks. Thanks!
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Post by Malcadon on Sept 1, 2014 14:40:22 GMT -6
The idea behind the Morlocks, was that most people escaped the war by going underground, while the social elites stayed above ground. Over time, they mutated into two entirely different races: the Morlocks and the Eloi. The Morlocks are a race of builder and engineers with a horrid appearence, who use the Eloi as livestock. The Eloi are weak, passive sheep, with a Nymph-like appearance. The while thing was a social commentary on social-class, if you would believe that. I can totally see little out-of-the-way gardens full of young, beautiful naked Carcosains, who spend their days eating fruits and nuts, playing and having lots (and lots... and lots) of care-free hippie-sex. Characters who find themselves in such a place would think they found paradise! It would be quit delightful until the Wardens come along to "hunt-down the wild animals." If they get captured, they would find the horrible truth about paradise, as the same people that you have been frolicking and [something else that starts with an "F"], are being slaughtered like helpless animals! This would make a great set-up for an adventure! In the Mutant Future Wiki (a house-rule wiki for the Gamma World retro-clone game called Mutant Future), I have a page for Morlocks and Eloi that you might find useful. As for White Apes, I would just throw in the entire Barsoomian Bestiary for the hell of it — even the Kaldanes (who use headless human bodies — Rykors — as transportation). |
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Post by blackbarn on Sept 17, 2014 22:02:04 GMT -6
Good call, Morlocks seem to fit. Don't forget about the Grimlocks of AD&D who seem to be based on Morlocks to begin with.  |
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Post by tkdco2 on Sept 18, 2014 1:16:41 GMT -6
Thanks for the suggestion. I've been thinking of adding Grimlocks to the game. I won't even need to change the name.
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Post by Malcadon on Sept 18, 2014 2:30:30 GMT -6
I've been thinking of adding Grimlocks to the game. This is only room for one Grimlock, and he is King!   |
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Post by tkdco2 on Sept 18, 2014 2:40:56 GMT -6
Summoning that Grimlock to Carcosa would take some doing. More than 11 times, definitely!  |
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Post by tkdco2 on Sept 25, 2014 14:45:05 GMT -6
Thouls would be another possibility. I've never actually used them; this sounds like a good opportunity.
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Post by Malcadon on Sept 25, 2014 16:46:03 GMT -6
Thouls would be another possibility. I've never actually used them; this sounds like a good opportunity. You mean the creatures who are "a magical combination of a ghoul, a hobgoblin, and a troll", from the second Basic D&D rulebook? |
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Post by tkdco2 on Sept 25, 2014 20:55:46 GMT -6
Thouls would be another possibility. I've never actually used them; this sounds like a good opportunity. You mean the creatures who are "a magical combination of a ghoul, a hobgoblin, and a troll", from the second Basic D&D rulebook? Yes, those creatures. I never saw any need for them, but maybe I ought to give them a chance. |
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Post by blackbarn on Sept 29, 2014 14:30:35 GMT -6
I've been thinking of adding Grimlocks to the game. This is only room for one Grimlock, and he is King! A couple months ago I got to thinking, was Grimlock some older name that both the Transformer and D&D borrowed, and got to researching it. It seems the Fiend Folio (and earlier White Dwarf monster, I guess) was based on the Morlock of the Time Machine, and it would seem that the Dinobot name is actually either based on the D&D monster name or was dreamed up independently. No older mention of Grimlock that I could find! |
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Post by Malcadon on Sept 30, 2014 2:14:53 GMT -6
A couple months ago I got to thinking, was Grimlock some older name that both the Transformer and D&D borrowed, and got to researching it. It seems the Fiend Folio (and earlier White Dwarf monster, I guess) was based on the Morlock of the Time Machine, and it would seem that the Dinobot name is actually either based on the D&D monster name or was dreamed up independently. No older mention of Grimlock that I could find! The Dinobot Grimlock was likely a name that was dreamed up independently by the folks at Hasbro. Had there been someone there throwing around obscure D&D names, there would be more "easter-egg" names like it in the series. Much like how the US and UK "Dennis The Menace" comics came in the same month, a whole ocean apart, coincidences in names do happen. |
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Post by blackbarn on Sept 30, 2014 17:45:42 GMT -6
A couple months ago I got to thinking, was Grimlock some older name that both the Transformer and D&D borrowed, and got to researching it. It seems the Fiend Folio (and earlier White Dwarf monster, I guess) was based on the Morlock of the Time Machine, and it would seem that the Dinobot name is actually either based on the D&D monster name or was dreamed up independently. No older mention of Grimlock that I could find! The Dinobot Grimlock was likely a name that was dreamed up independently by the folks at Hasbro. Had there been someone there throwing around obscure D&D names, there would be more "easter-egg" names like it in the series. Much like how the US and UK "Dennis The Menace" comics came in the same month, a whole ocean apart, coincidences in names do happen. Quite possibly. But never overlook how prominent D&D was in those days. I know the He-Man series pulled several things from D&D, as the writer admitted it (and it's clear when you read their series bible). Anyhow, I looked Grimlock up some more and found this info at tfwiki.net : Grimlock has had a number of preliminary names, one being Tyrannobot. The Transformers cartoon series bible contains one description of him that was originally typed with the name "Trapjaw", then its title was crossed out by hand and rewritten "Grimlock". Another description was typed with "Jawbreaker", again crossed out and relabeled "Grimlock". Another preliminary name is "Tyrex", from the Sunbow Productions cast list page for "Countdown to Extinction"; this was evidently coined by writer Donald F. Glut. So wherever Grimlock's name came from, it seems he went through a few tentative names. They were probably altering scripts as Hasbro waffled over the name. The article also has some names for him in other countries. (sorry for the slight derailing of the thread!) |
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Post by tkdco2 on Oct 2, 2014 15:16:35 GMT -6
As burningtorso already mentioned, White Apes are a good option. Hint: See Hex #0501.
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Post by burningtorso on Oct 5, 2014 3:22:47 GMT -6
Heheh, exactly! My character creator program makes any characters starting from HEX #0501 a White Ape. I think I did that with the 2001 and 2010 hexes as well due to their secondary descriptions.
With he jokes related to hex numbers I was hoping for a space ship in Hex 1701. (or dead guys in red shirts.)
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Post by tkdco2 on Oct 5, 2014 11:46:04 GMT -6
Heheh, exactly! My character creator program makes any characters starting from HEX #0501 a White Ape. I think I did that with the 2001 and 2010 hexes as well due to their secondary descriptions. With he jokes related to hex numbers I was hoping for a space ship in Hex 1701. (or dead guys in red shirts.) Red shirts, you say? Here you go! |
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Post by burningtorso on Oct 5, 2014 16:43:16 GMT -6
Now those are miniatures that should have been made back in the Starfleet Battles/FASA Star Trek era of gaming!
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Post by tkdco2 on Oct 5, 2014 16:52:07 GMT -6
Agreed. They would have come in so handy when my group played FASA Trek, although my friends preferred starship combat to roleplaying.
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Post by burningtorso on Oct 5, 2014 21:47:37 GMT -6
I usually just did the starship combat with my groups, though always hoped to get an actual rpg session going.
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Post by tkdco2 on Oct 6, 2014 0:07:36 GMT -6
A Star Trek type of organization may indeed come to Carcosa, where a few unlucky crewmen would fall victim to the dangers there (perhaps taken by the Morlocks).
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Post by burningtorso on Oct 6, 2014 1:58:15 GMT -6
Needles (over at Swords & Stitchery) ran one or two games where unfortunate Starfleet crew crashed on Carcosa. Was fun to read about. |
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