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Post by dicebro on Feb 7, 2021 19:40:02 GMT -6
As a Chaotic person, she has one cardinal rule to follow: She must never, under any circumstances, become a bootlicker. She's not fighting for the King, for the country, or for God, she fights for herself. She's always in fistfights with cops. Chaos is, after all, according to Moorcock, the principle of possibility unfettered by rules. Chaos is freedom. The effects of Chaos can be beautiful. Add a little bit of Crowley's Thelema("Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be the Whole of the Law"), and you can get a perfectly working Chaotic good guy in OD&D. In my Od&d campaign, your character is either on the side of law or on the side of Chaos. Thus, alignment isn’t a set of behaviors, it’s a side the character “aligns” with before the fighting between the two opposing forces breaks out. Anyone who doesn’t pick a side is Neutral, kind of like Switzerland.
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Post by tkdco2 on Feb 8, 2021 1:57:27 GMT -6
I couldn't find the relevant quote in the Balrog Stats thread, but I was rereading the writeup I printed out years ago. It stated that Evil High Priests are a bit more influential than Balrogs when it comes to enemy bosses. So in that sense anti-clerics can be the ultimate enemy in OD&D.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 16:38:53 GMT -6
I couldn't find the relevant quote in the Balrog Stats thread, but I was rereading the writeup I printed out years ago. It stated that Evil High Priests are a bit more influential than Balrogs when it comes to enemy bosses. So in that sense anti-clerics can be the ultimate enemy in OD&D. To be honest, if a Balrog knocked on my front door and tried to get me to join his cause, I'd probably jump out the back window and flee, but the Evil High Priest is at least a Human and therefore automatically more charismatic. That's one way to look at it anyway.
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Post by aj on Mar 30, 2023 14:42:32 GMT -6
Anti-clerics often pretend to be lawful clerics, infiltrating holy temples. Consider the well-liked priest and his two acolytes in the KEEP. What! I was good to him, I gave him most of my treasure and he gave me shelter and advice. Are you saying in b2 that he is actually evil? I am floored.
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Post by doublejig2 on Mar 30, 2023 14:48:49 GMT -6
From Dice or Die with permission:
Worse yet [and in some humor] – he [the anti-cleric] may sometimes borrow your favorite book, and then claim he can’t find them for months upon end when asked to return them. He will wipe his fingers on your fine furniture after feasting on the greasiest leg of mutton or goose and will make inappropriate passes at your significant other in full view of everyone present. His table manners leave much to be desired and he jay walks with abandon and glee. His beard is unkempt and his checks bounce, despite his tremendous wealth. Nobody enjoys his jokes but they laugh nervously lest their heart be suddenly pierced by death rays. Overall, a real jerk – Josh James, ODD74.com
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Post by geoffrey on Mar 30, 2023 17:16:03 GMT -6
Anti-clerics often pretend to be lawful clerics, infiltrating holy temples. Consider the well-liked priest and his two acolytes in the KEEP. What! I was good to him, I gave him most of my treasure and he gave me shelter and advice. Are you saying in b2 that he is actually evil? I am floored. The priest and his two acolytes (who reside in the private apartments) are indeed chaotic evil. They are not to be confused with the Curate and his three acolytes (who are all good-aligned) who reside in the chapel's cellar.
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Post by atlantean on Mar 31, 2023 9:12:44 GMT -6
Anti-clerics the ultimate enemy? I never really thought about it before reading this thread but yeah, they are. Rescuing their prisoner from being sacrificed is always a great go-to scenario.
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Post by howandwhy99 on Mar 31, 2023 11:00:31 GMT -6
I strongly doubt there is any "Ultimate Enemy" in OD&D. Humans are given a lot of benefit, the highest level character classes can be the most difficult opponents. There are few better at casting, Warrior ability, or clerical ability than a name level PC.
If anything I would say in ancient red dragon or perhaps Tiamat.
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Post by dicebro on Apr 2, 2023 9:26:39 GMT -6
I strongly doubt there is any "Ultimate Enemy" in OD&D. Humans are given a lot of benefit, the highest level character classes can be the most difficult opponents. There are few better at casting, Warrior ability, or clerical ability than a name level PC. If anything I would say in ancient red dragon or perhaps Tiamat. It was a rhetorical question.
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Post by ahabicher on Apr 8, 2023 6:54:47 GMT -6
Anti-clerics often pretend to be lawful clerics, infiltrating holy temples. Consider the well-liked priest and his two acolytes in the KEEP. That sounds like quite the adventure for the Anti-Clerics too. Imagine the feeling of disgust they have while they have to reverse-cause-wounds and reverse-cause-disease a.k.a. heal people that they would much sooner like to see decay. All to conceal their true intention to rise to a position where they can really mess up a city.
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