Update on Delving Deeper Boxed Sets

[Haldo Bramwise]

From the BHP Blog: carpgp.blogspot.com/2013/11/delving-deeper-boxed-sets-update.html

Hey guys,

I sure do appreciate everyone’s supreme patience. In all it will have taken just over a year to get everyone’s order to them (after waiting two years for the actual product to be ready). I am not at all proud (actually, ashamed) of my handling of this project.

But, my difficulties with the Delving Deeper project (that go beyond just printing & shipping) have taught me some great lessons about myself and hobby publishing that are already transforming BHP.

We have spent the last month printing, binding and wrapping enough Delving Deeper Boxed Sets to fulfill all remaining, outstanding orders (there were about 20 more than we thought). These remaining orders should all reach their new homes before the end of November and everyone will receive and email with a tracking number (including international orders).

The second shipment to those who pre-ordered a DD Boxed Set will follow AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. There are surprises in the second shipment, so I would like to not comment on its contents until they begin shipping.

Lastly, during the last year, Delving Deeper RPG has continued to develop under Immersive Ink’s leadership. This has brought some significant changes to the game. Because I want to continue to provide support to those who purchased DD Boxed Sets, once Immersive Ink releases their final, updated pdfs of Delving Deeper (the “DD Reference Rules”), I will be happy to provide printed copies of those three booklets to folks who have purchased a DD Boxed Set. That way, you will still have booklets (3) that will contain the final form of DD in your Boxed Sets. I am guessing this might take place in early 2014 (but it is when Simon has the Reference pdfs ready).

[busman]

Starting to feel like I'm the only one who hasn't received their order yet, at this point.

[machpants]

Don't worry your not the only one

[funkaoshi]

We can start a soccer team!

[Fattest Dragon]

Thanks for the update John.

[Craig J. Brain]

Nov 2, 2013 7:13:08 GMT -6 Haldo Bramwise said:

From the BHP Blog: carpgp.blogspot.com/2013/11/delving-deeper-boxed-sets-update.html

The second shipment to those who pre-ordered a DD Boxed Set will go out in December. There are surprises in the second shipment, so I would like to not comment on its contents until they begin shipping.

Can somebody explain what this means?

I converted my order for the S&W White Boxed Set to DD just before it went public and was told that there would be an adventure of some kind (a print version of a small setting from memory).
Does this mean that John is sending out something like that to everyone he's already shipped a set to?

Thanks,

Craig J. Brain
Australia

[Haldo Bramwise]

Nov 3, 2013 23:37:41 GMT -6 Craig J. Brain said:

Nov 2, 2013 7:13:08 GMT -6 Haldo Bramwise said:

From the BHP Blog: carpgp.blogspot.com/2013/11/delving-deeper-boxed-sets-update.html

The second shipment to those who pre-ordered a DD Boxed Set will go out in December. There are surprises in the second shipment, so I would like to not comment on its contents until they begin shipping.

Can somebody explain what this means?

I converted my order for the S&W White Boxed Set to DD just before it went public and was told that there would be an adventure of some kind (a print version of a small setting from memory).
Does this mean that John is sending out something like that to everyone he's already shipped a set to?

Thanks,

Craig J. Brain
Australia

Hey Craig. Yes everyone who pre-ordered a DD boxed set is going to get a second shipment - there just was not enough space in the boxes to fit all of the material without damaging the boxes.

[Finarvyn]

I'm glad this nightmare is coming closer and closer to an end, John. I can't wait to see the final product and I'm sure you can't wait to get them all shipped. Then you can finally relax a little and enjoy gaming again....

[wulfgar22]

Nov 2, 2013 7:13:08 GMT -6 Haldo Bramwise said:

The second shipment to those who pre-ordered a DD Boxed Set will go out in December. There are surprises in the second shipment, so I would like to not comment on its contents until they begin shipping.

Lastly, during the last year, Delving Deeper RPG has continued to develop under Immersive Ink’s leadership. This has brought some significant changes to the game. Because I want to continue to provide support to those who purchased DD Boxed Sets, once Immersive Ink releases their final, updated pdfs of Delving Deeper (the “DD Reference Rules”), I will be happy to provide printed copies of those three booklets to folks who have purchased a DD Boxed Set. That way, you will still have booklets (3) that will contain the final form of DD in your Boxed Sets. I am guessing this might take place in early 2014 (but it is when Simon has the Reference pdfs ready).

I really wish you wouldn't make these promises. If it's taken you over a year to get the box sets out to everyone (and you are still doing so as there seem to be quite a few who still haven't had theirs) as well as still having to ship out several modules and assorted other bits in 3 shipping stages to over 500 Appendix N Kickstarter backers (which has also been going for over a year with the majority of those backers still waiting to see anything in print) then what makes you think you can get the second DD shipment out in December let alone promise extra booklets at some point in early 2014?

I'd really just prefer you to get on with delivering what you initially promised and hear from the backers and the pre-orderers that they are finally getting what they paid for.

[Craig J. Brain]

Nov 4, 2013 11:04:56 GMT -6 Finarvyn said:

I'm glad this nightmare is coming closer and closer to an end, John. I can't wait to see the final product and I'm sure you can't wait to get them all shipped. Then you can finally relax a little and enjoy gaming again....

John,

I have to agree with Marv on this. This looks like it has been a pretty rough experience for you.

I wasn't expecting a second shipment, but will (patiently) look forward to that.

Regards,

Craig J. Brain
Australia

[Falconer]

Nov 2, 2013 7:13:08 GMT -6 Haldo Bramwise said:

The second shipment to those who pre-ordered a DD Boxed Set will go out in December.

“Instead ye ought to say, If the Lord wills, we shall live and we shall do this or that.”

[Haldo Bramwise]

Wulgar22 and Falconer: I made the appropriate changes to the blog post and here. Thank you for reminding me.

[Haldo Bramwise]

I will have an update in the next day or two (my day-job is keeping me crazy busy) - but all remaining orders I am aware of are shipping out this week. I will also talk about what's in the second shipment.

[Haldo Bramwise]

We are in the middle of a winter storm right now, but as soon as I can get the whole family home from school and work, I will get that update posted.

[machpants]

So I will get a shipping notification within a week? That'd be great.

[Ronin84]

Was it everyone who ordered a DD box set that was going to be getting this second box set because I have yet to see anything related to that.

I did get the first box set some time ago though that is something....

[Haldo Bramwise]

Dec 5, 2013 21:43:27 GMT -6 Ronin84 said:

Was it everyone who ordered a DD box set that was going to be getting this second box set because I have yet to see anything related to that.

I did get the first box set some time ago though that is something....

Yes. Folks who pre-ordered a DD boxed set (orders before November 2012) are going to get a second shipment that will include a few, short adventures, a WhiteBox Conversion booklet for DD, a card stock map of Blackmarsh and another thing or two I cannot reveal just yet.

And, for everyone who ordered a DD Boxed Set, I will print and send a set of the final Reference Rules Booklets once Simon has them ready.

The winter storm has me might busy today, but we have been and are continuing to ship the remaining Delving Deeper Boxed Set orders. If you are still waiting and do not get an email tracking number from me by the end of next week, please email me and I will ship it immediately. I did a terrible job fulfilling orders for this product, but I believe we are down to just a dozen or so left to ship.

[Haldo Bramwise]

Quick0and-Dirty:

The WhiteBox DD conversion booklet ("Alchemical Symmetry") contains:

I. Class Details with the Single Saving Throw and Saving Throw Bonuses

II. Ascending Armor Class Details

III. Class & Monster To-Hit Chart that include both Ascending and Descending Armor Class

IV. Revised Monster Reference List that includes Ascending Armor Class and Single Saving Throw

[Koren n'Rhys]

John, will you be releasing that as a pdf eventually?

[Haldo Bramwise]

Dec 6, 2013 18:13:13 GMT -6 Koren n'Rhys said:

John, will you be releasing that as a pdf eventually?

Yes, after they have all shipped.

[Koren n'Rhys]

Awesome and not at all unexpected. Thanks.

[Craig J. Brain]

John,

Great going. You've persisted and managed to get most of these out the door, and you've started work on bonuses! It's pretty hard to complain too hard or with a great deal of conviction at this stage. I'll look forward to seeing the new stuff arrive next year. All the best for the Christmas and the holiday season. Hopefully Real Life (TM) will treat you better in the new year

Craig J. Brain
Australia

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Dec 6, 2013 13:17:56 GMT -6 Haldo Bramwise said:

If you are still waiting and do not get an email tracking number from me by the end of next week, please email me and I will ship it immediately. I did a terrible job fulfilling orders for this product, but I believe we are down to just a dozen or so left to ship.

So i sent you a mail on august 31 st when you asked for a mail from everyone who still had not gotten their order and then i sent you two mails on the 17th of december (to [e-mail] and [e-mail] respectively) after the post above and still no reply no tracking number no nothing... what could be the reasonable explanation for this?

What will the next promise be? first week of january? last week of january? february 14th to commemorate the one year anniversary of my order?

[Haldo Bramwise]

Dec 23, 2013 3:50:08 GMT -6 @robrob said:

Dec 6, 2013 13:17:56 GMT -6 Haldo Bramwise said:

If you are still waiting and do not get an email tracking number from me by the end of next week, please email me and I will ship it immediately. I did a terrible job fulfilling orders for this product, but I believe we are down to just a dozen or so left to ship.

So i sent you a mail on august 31 st when you asked for a mail from everyone who still had not gotten their order and then i sent you two mails on the 17th of december (to [e-mail] and [e-mail] respectively) after the post above and still no reply no tracking number no nothing... what could be the reasonable explanation for this?

What will the next promise be? first week of january? last week of january? february 14th to commemorate the one year anniversary of my order?

Hey Robrob, please PM me your email address and your actual name. I cannot find any emails from you in December (including my SPAM folder).

[Haldo Bramwise]

Dec 23, 2013 3:50:08 GMT -6 @robrob said:

Dec 6, 2013 13:17:56 GMT -6 Haldo Bramwise said:

If you are still waiting and do not get an email tracking number from me by the end of next week, please email me and I will ship it immediately. I did a terrible job fulfilling orders for this product, but I believe we are down to just a dozen or so left to ship.

So i sent you a mail on august 31 st when you asked for a mail from everyone who still had not gotten their order and then i sent you two mails on the 17th of december (to [e-mail] and [e-mail] respectively) after the post above and still no reply no tracking number no nothing... what could be the reasonable explanation for this?

What will the next promise be? first week of january? last week of january? february 14th to commemorate the one year anniversary of my order?

Hey Robrob. Thank you for sending me the PM. I apologize for missing your email. No emails from December 17 showed up when I looked, but when I searched with your email, they both came up on December 17. Your boxed set will go out with the group going out this weekend.

The same is true for Machpants, bestialwarlust and others.

[machpants]

Great news, Happy Yuletide