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Post by giantgenesis on Dec 30, 2013 15:52:34 GMT -6
Sorry to get back with this topic again, but I was (re)reading some of the comments here, and I have a question about how you handle throwing weapons (such as throwing axes), in distance combat.
So, if you are using a one minute round:
1- Do you allow one roll for damage, or more than one roll?? 2- Notwithstanding how many dice you let you players roll, do you consider that more than one weapons (axe, for instance) are being thrown (a little bit like some of you have suggested for arrows)??
Thanks! GG
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Post by Red Baron on Dec 30, 2013 17:08:04 GMT -6
Theres a fire rate chart in the AD&D PHB. Most hurled weapons can be thrown at the rate of one per round with the exception of daggers and darts (which I don't allow as the term "darts" referred to javelins, not tiny little throwing darts. Blowgun darts are ok though in exotic lands but then they are fired at one per round).
No missile weapons do extra damage, excepting maybe giant boulders, because they are all assumed to be able to kill a man, meaning they do 1d6 like every other weapon that kills a man. Such things as arrows are actually more deadly than other weapons because their 1d6 damage is for only one shot, whereas when a sword or axe does 1d6 damage it is damage from a series of blows and cuts and kicks to the nuts.
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Post by sepulchre on Jan 21, 2014 23:04:17 GMT -6
Cooper wrote: I think this was the danger of engaging units armed with hurled/missile weapons. I began thinking about this subject here: (http://odd74.proboards.com/thread/6506/missile-projectile-weapons-man)Now moving along:In reenactments these have been the results: (#/missiles loosed with in 51 seconds) 6 quarrels 130lbs/poundage draw rate/hand-drawn crossbow 2 quarrels 330lbs/poundage draw rate/heavy crossbow or arbalest (with goat's-foot and cranequin) 10 arrows 110lbs/poundage draw rate/longbow. Riffing off your comment above, I see no reason the reenactment result could not be adopted in Chainmail for missile exchange in Man-to-Man and mass combat. For a charge against an archer divide the advancing unit's charging movement by 10 (melee rds./turn). So charging at a rate of 15” in a turn, so 45’/melee rd. Long bow (see above) 1 arrow/melee rd. Light crossbow (see above) just round to 1 quarrel/2 melee rds, arbalest (see above) 1 quarrel/5 melee rds. To balance this I think Delta's look at archery ranges for man-to-man must be included: deltasdnd.blogspot.com/2012/11/archery-revisited.html#comment-formDelta wrote: Using a 5' scale (indoors & outdoors) (h. crossbow: 6"/12"/24" means 30'/60'/120'...30'corresponding to U.A point blank range) Modifiers 'to hit': S: +4, M: +2 L:0 Employing my interpretation of fire rate with Delta's take on range: Once the advancing enemy (MV: 45'/melee rd.) is on the edge of the effective 'man-to-man' range (105') of the longbow, the archer would loose two arrows before he could chose to flee, draw a weapon and withdraw or engage. The enemy being within 15', the longbowman could not loose a third arrow, but could flee, draw a weapon and withdraw or engage. For mass combat, if a unit was disciplined, a unit of 20 archers could unleash a rain of arrows every melee rd. - pretty deadly in that mass combat ranges apply: 21" is 210 yards. modifiers 'to hit': S:0 M:-2 L:-5 (applying AD&D modifiers)
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Post by Red Baron on Jan 22, 2014 16:10:59 GMT -6
Cooper wrote: I think this was the danger of engaging units armed with hurled/missile weapons. “At them, you fools! Its all a trick. There are only the two of them. Rush them!” Fafrd turned without warning and loosed point blank at the voice, but did not silence it. Then he dodged back behind the small dome and ran with the mouser for the woods. The six rouges, wisely deciding that a charge with drawn swords would be overly heroic, followed suit, unslinging their bows as they ran. The Jewels in the Forest -Fritz Leiber
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Post by ravenheart87 on Jan 22, 2014 16:49:20 GMT -6
Let's not forget, that in case of DnD during most combat you're going to aim at single moving targets, not shooting a volley into an area covered by a mass of people like in battles.
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Post by sepulchre on Jan 22, 2014 18:28:57 GMT -6
redbaron wrote: Thanks Fritz . ravenheart87 wrote: That is precisely the subject of Delta's piece, single targets the subject of the enactment results, both described in the above post.
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