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Post by jeffb on Sept 3, 2017 6:42:31 GMT -6
Yikes. Necromancy.
It is still my fave retroclone. We moved on to DW as system of choice, but we played WB quite a bit over these past years..Sadly,the "Kids" have now all left for college. Miss my Son of course, and now my regular gaming has come to an end.
We also did some WhiteStar. Excellent counterpart to WB
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Aug 28, 2018 18:07:59 GMT -6
Back in 2015 when I was rebooting our family D&D game with me and the kids, I settled on the first iteration of WB as our rules of choice. It was simple enough for me as the DM to keep track of (I was only five years out in my recovery from some brain damage) and open enough that I could add in anything else I thought was useful or appropriate. The death of my daughter two years ago ended that campaign. I also used WB for the Ancient Egypt setting my wife requested, but she has shown no interest in playing.
Now, I am building a new campaign setting just for fun, and it's WB again for the rules.
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Post by Finarvyn on Aug 28, 2018 19:02:38 GMT -6
Back in 2015 when I was rebooting our family D&D game with me and the kids, I settled on the first iteration of WB as our rules of choice. It was simple enough for me as the DM to keep track of (I was only five years out in my recovery from some brain damage) and open enough that I could add in anything else I thought was useful or appropriate. The death of my daughter two years ago ended that campaign. I also used WB for the Ancient Egypt setting my wife requested, but she has shown no interest in playing. Now, I am building a new campaign setting just for fun, and it's WB again for the rules. Glad to hear it. I know that building that rules set was a fun time and I'm glad that folks still enjoy it.  |
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Post by Punkrabbitt on Aug 28, 2018 20:33:33 GMT -6
Glad to hear it. I know that building that rules set was a fun time and I'm glad that folks still enjoy it. Honestly, although I hear a lot of good buzz about Whitebox: Fantastic Medieval Adventure Game, I still prefer the original for one main reason: the two column format is easier for me to process for some reason. And, of course, I had the original first. |
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Post by machfront on Aug 29, 2018 1:02:33 GMT -6
I can still honestly see how one may prefer the earliest iterations, most especially (imo) the Brave Halfling second and (VERY!) short-lived third editions. If one has a copy of that/those, and is familiar with OD&D or Holmes or B/X, then it's works perfectly well. I always wanted WhiteBox to serve at least as well as the original 3LBBs did back then in terms of planning and table-use. As such, I'd pined for and now have what S&W WB should have always been and always deserved to be: White Box: Fantastic Medieval Adventure Game. As far as I'm concerned, I AM playing OD&D arguably and certainly D&D..so... Of course, I still have the 3LBBs not too far and also things such as Judges Guild Ready Ref Sheets, etc., etc.,blah, blah,blah. But, yes...WB:FMAG is what I've "always" wanted and needed! (I say "always" only because I actually only discovered the awesomeness of 3LBB-only OD&D when S&W:WB was first released. I'd long been an anti-AD&D, super B/X D&D nerd and T&T fanboy til then. Heh.) Having said that, If someone took ALL of my fantasy RPG material except for my first print S&W:WB or BHP 2nd or 3rd print S&W:WB hardbacks, I'd download either Ready Ref Sheets and/or New Big Dragon Game's D30 Sandbox Companion and some Gothridge Manor short adventures/areas and I'd be done and off for decades of fun!  |
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Post by chicagowiz on Aug 29, 2018 7:21:11 GMT -6
Absolutely, I still play WB. It is still the basis of my on-again, off-again solo campaign with my wife. I use it as-is, with the single volume OD&D spiral bound book, Rient's Cinder tables, Ready Ref sheets and my WB Ref sheets. That's it. I also use WB when I'm not gaming in my AD&D world, at conferences.
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Post by Merias on Aug 29, 2018 10:17:58 GMT -6
I replied 'yes' way back when this thread was created, and it's still a 'yes'. Here is my WB collection, including the first edition, the french language edition, the box set and the FMAGs (they are so cheap why not get all the cover art?).  |
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Post by snorri on Aug 29, 2018 14:33:35 GMT -6
Whitebox: Fantastic Medieval Adventure Game is also my base game for my current wilderlands campaign, with 3 players. We had our 8th session yesterday night. Adventurers are travelling in a jungle filled of dinosaurs and cannibals because they had a dream about a cursed city where they could learn more about the cult of the Baboon god - they firts created the cult as a fake to get money, but soon discovered they may have found some truth...
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Post by strangebrew on Aug 29, 2018 19:52:15 GMT -6
What does the new White Box add to the old?
I really liked SW:WB for a good while, and still have the Brave Halfling boxed set somewhere (though I should sell it off one of these days). It got me into 'minimal gaming' if that makes sense, but more importantly it got me into OD&D for which I am grateful. I think I mentioned elsewhere, it also pointed out (in the elf and dwarf monster descriptions) that monsters do not have to follow the same rules as characters, which was a light bulb moment for me. So if I want this dwarf to be able to talk to birds and toss a fireball once per day, all I got to do is make a note of that.
These days I'm kind of over retro clones, and would just use the LBBs (or rather, homemade reprints) or other originals (currently 2nd edition) for OSR gaming.
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Post by Finarvyn on Aug 29, 2018 20:10:28 GMT -6
I replied 'yes' way back when this thread was created, and it's still a 'yes'. Here is my WB collection, including the first edition, the french language edition, the box set and the FMAGs (they are so cheap why not get all the cover art?). I'm jealous. I think your collection is better than my own. I have the Mullen cover, the dragon cover hardback, a couple of the BH boxed sets, and a copy or two of the WB:FMAG. Looks like you have some others, and of course you mentioned a French language version which I don't have since I don't speak or read French... |
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Post by Finarvyn on Aug 29, 2018 20:13:03 GMT -6
It got me into 'minimal gaming' if that makes sense, but more importantly it got me into OD&D for which I am grateful. Both of those were among my original design goals. I wanted folks to experience something that would explain how OWD& works and the whole "minimal gaming" is something I've preached for decades. I tried to use a "toolbox" approach (which some love and others hate) to get across the notion that you can pick-and-choose rules to make the game your own. |
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Post by Merias on Aug 30, 2018 6:21:45 GMT -6
Both of those were among my original design goals. I wanted folks to experience something that would explain how OWD& works and the whole "minimal gaming" is something I've preached for decades. I tried to use a "toolbox" approach (which some love and others hate) to get across the notion that you can pick-and-choose rules to make the game your own. This approach was perfect for me as a lapsed gamer around 2009 or so when the 1st edition came out. The 'mainstream' RPGs at the time were dauntingly huge, expensive tomes which did not inspire the sort of quick, simple game you want to play with your kids. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 14:06:39 GMT -6
Still DMing/playing in our regular pub game of stripped-down 'Breigspiel' Whitebox (we use the rules we can remember) as well as recently starting some new players on a campaign using WB variant 'Untold Adventures'. The toolbox approach was perfect for me too. I'm a much better DM for it |
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Post by sixdemonbag on Aug 30, 2018 14:55:52 GMT -6
Like many others here, WB led me to OD&D. Before the official PDFs were released, WB was the closest thing available to the original. Adding some modern qualities-of-life was a nice touch too all while maintaining the simplicity OD&D is known for.
I'd still be using WB today if the originals weren't readily available. Needless to say, I'm a big fan.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 14:17:56 GMT -6
Hi - I'm new to the board and I have a lot of fond memories of red box D&D, and even though I play 5th edition it's White Box FMAG that's got me back into OD&D. It's a brilliant ruleset that's got me back into creating games and I can't wait for the POD of Eldritch Tales.
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Post by sixdemonbag on Sept 1, 2018 14:39:32 GMT -6
Hi - I'm new to the board and I have a lot of fond memories of red box D&D, and even though I play 5th edition it's White Box FMAG that's got me back into OD&D. It's a brilliant ruleset that's got me back into creating games and I can't wait for the POD of Eldritch Tales. If you can find the 1st printing of S&W: WB it's worth checking out. That one happens to be my favorite flavor by a large margin. FMAG is good too, though. |
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Post by Merias on Sept 1, 2018 15:26:42 GMT -6
If you can find the 1st printing of S&W: WB it's worth checking out. That one happens to be my favorite flavor by a large margin. FMAG is good too, though.
(all the fonts are embedded in the first print PDF, so you should be able to print it yourself at Lulu).
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Post by sixdemonbag on Sept 1, 2018 15:30:28 GMT -6
(all the fonts are embedded in the first print PDF, so you should be able to print it yourself at Lulu).
That's awesome. I've never seen this before! |
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Post by machfront on Sept 1, 2018 20:56:42 GMT -6
If you can find the 1st printing of S&W: WB it's worth checking out. That one happens to be my favorite flavor by a large margin. FMAG is good too, though. (all the fonts are embedded in the first print PDF, so you should be able to print it yourself at Lulu).
I'm still so glad myself and others saved these older edition pdfs for so long. Thanks to you and Matt Finch now everyone can still enjoy and grab up their preferred iteration or perhaps find a new fave. |
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Post by Merias on Sept 2, 2018 7:04:56 GMT -6
I'm still so glad myself and others saved these older edition pdfs for so long. Thanks to you and Matt Finch now everyone can still enjoy and grab up their preferred iteration or perhaps find a new fave. :) As am I! As I recall the elusive Brave Halfling 3rd print was yours, thanks! |
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Post by verhaden on Sept 2, 2018 8:14:17 GMT -6
If they ever go down, I have all of the source files backed up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 10:05:05 GMT -6
(all the fonts are embedded in the first print PDF, so you should be able to print it yourself at Lulu).
That's awesome. I've never seen this before! Nice one, guys; I really like the Seattle Hill Games version - I bought the POD - and it'd be great to see the originals. |
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Post by sixdemonbag on Sept 2, 2018 11:44:46 GMT -6
If they ever go down, I have all of the source files backed up. BTW, Cones of Dunshire? |
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Post by The Wanderer on Sept 4, 2018 0:13:21 GMT -6
Hi - I'm new to the board and I have a lot of fond memories of red box D&D, and even though I play 5th edition it's White Box FMAG that's got me back into OD&D. It's a brilliant ruleset that's got me back into creating games and I can't wait for the POD of Eldritch Tales. If you can find the 1st printing of S&W: WB it's worth checking out. That one happens to be my favorite flavor by a large margin. FMAG is good too, though. I recently had the 1st printing done through Lulu and it's fantastic. If it was the version still available today, I probably wouldn't have made FMAG. But with that said, I do much prefer digest size for any book that aims at OD&D. |
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Post by Finarvyn on Sept 4, 2018 13:28:25 GMT -6
If you can find the 1st printing of S&W: WB it's worth checking out. That one happens to be my favorite flavor by a large margin. FMAG is good too, though. I recently had the 1st printing done through Lulu and it's fantastic. If it was the version still available today, I probably wouldn't have made FMAG. But with that said, I do much prefer digest size for any book that aims at OD&D. I dunno. There are several cool versions of WB out there. I'm humbled by the enthusiasm, actually. * The original 1E "Mullen Cover" single book is pretty neat. * The Brave Halfling "white box" WB's are pretty cool as well. * BH's WB in a single hardback was nice. * FMAG is a great re-creation of the rules set. I'd stack FMAG up there with the others, and I'm glad you took the time to create it.  |
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Post by jeffb on Sept 8, 2018 9:02:55 GMT -6
Glad to see this thread still lives.
My son decided to come back home and go to college locally so we still play some white box here and there mostly as one shots, and my opinion hasn't changed. Love it. It works great as-is, And is a fantastic framework for a highly house ruled/expanded game (which is generally where I take it- adding in things from other games I like,- 13Th AGE, 4E, 5E, etc.).
My 7yo Girl is showing interest too now, so White Box will be perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 11:58:19 GMT -6
I'm using S&W: FMAG to run a game at my son's school for seven 4th graders. It's perfect for them, and quite frankly, for me.
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Post by tacojohn4547 on Sept 25, 2020 18:50:29 GMT -6
I replied 'yes' way back when this thread was created, and it's still a 'yes'. Here is my WB collection, including the first edition, the french language edition, the box set and the FMAGs (they are so cheap why not get all the cover art?). I'm jealous. I think your collection is better than my own. I have the Mullen cover, the dragon cover hardback, a couple of the BH boxed sets, and a copy or two of the WB:FMAG. Looks like you have some others, and of course you mentioned a French language version which I don't have since I don't speak or read French... I have a “few copies” of S&W:WB myself, but this photo is giving me a bad case of shelf envy!!! |
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Post by jeffb on Sept 25, 2020 19:22:19 GMT -6
Love to see this bumped yet again. All these years later and WB is still my go-to. Straight out of the book or modded to hell. These days I generally use WB as the base and then add what I want from GH,EW,BM,and some Third party materials
I have a BHP color softcover with the dragon on it. I really want a hardcopy of the Mullen cover but in original or second printing text, not whatever the last print version Finch did.
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Post by tacojohn4547 on Sept 25, 2020 22:35:17 GMT -6
Love to see this bumped yet again. All these years later and WB is still my go-to. Straight out of the book or modded to hell. These days I generally use WB as the base and then add what I want from GH,EW,BM,and some Third party materials I have a BHP color softcover with the dragon on it. I really want a hardcopy of the Mullen cover but in original or second printing text, not whatever the last print version Finch did. I’m working a crap load of hours at my day job, thru Oct 15. But after that settles down, I’m going to be working on some ‘retooled’ print copies of WB, because I can and since the pdfs are available. |
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