BLUEHOLME™ Compleat Monsters

[Vile Traveller]

This is the current list of additional monsters to be included in the Compleat Rules, based on various references in related writings:

Holmes Blue Book

• Ape (1st edition alignment chart, sample dungeon)
  
• Assassin (additional character classes)
  
• Bat, Huge ( description)
  
• Bear (giant description)
  
• Brigand (dungeon mastering as a fine art)
  
• Centaur (additional character classes)
  
• Crab, Giant (sample dungeon)
  
• Cyclopia (british edition image)
  
• Demon (1st edition alignment chart)
  
• Dragon , Blue (1st edition alignment chart)
  
• Druid (additional character classes)
  
• Elemental (Protection from Evil spell description)
  
• Fairy (pixie description)
  
• Fish, Large (pixie entry)
  
• Half Elf (additional character classes)
  
• Illusionist (additional character classes)
  
• Lizard, Giant (1st edition wandering monster)
  
• Lammasu (1st edition alignment chart)
  
• Leprechaun (1st edition wandering monster)
  
• Monk (additional character classes)
  
• Octopus, Large (sample dungeon)
  
• Paladin (additional character classes)
  
• Piercer (1st edition wandering monster)
  
• Ranger (additional character classes)
  
• Rat ( description)
  
• Scorpion, Giant (poisoned weapons)
  
• Sarcophagus Skeleton (sample dungeon)
  
• Snake, Giant (sample dungeon)
  
• Spider, Enormous (sample dungeon)
  
• Toad, Giant (1st edition wandering monster)
  
• Weasel, Giant (1st edition wandering monster)
  
• Wereleopard (lycanthrope description)
  
• Wereshark (lycanthrope description)
  
• Wolf (giant & description)

Dragon #12 Cthuloid Monsters

• Byakhee
  
• Deep Ones
  
• Great Race
  
• Old Ones (Antarctic)
  
• Mi-Go
  
• Shaggoth

Dragon #31 Trollshead

• Black Elf
  
• Half Orc

Dragon #46 The Sorcerer’s Stone

• Lich

Dragon #52 Holmes Basic D&D vs. Moldvay Basic

• Dreenoi

Dragon #58 In the Bag

• Writhing Roots

Confessions of a Dungeon Master

• Gremlin
  
• Naga
  
• Raven

Fantasy Role Playing Games

• Enchanted Statue
  
• Flower Stalks
  
• Gila Monster, Giant
  
• Tentacled Maw

The Maze of Peril

• Crab, Giant
  
• Frog Men
  
• Golem, Flesh
  
• Golem, Stone
  
• Wereshark
  

[machpants]

Flower Stalks
Gila Monster, Giant
Tentacled Maw

Not seen those ones so interested in them especially

[stevemitchell]

I hope you will add the Old Ones (South Polar variety) from Dragon #12 to your roster of Lovecraftian monsters.

[Vile Traveller]

I think Zenopus posted his interpretation of the giant gila monster somewhere. I am thinking about using the ERB trope of reptiles that just keep on growing, so the classification system of normal, large, giant, huge etc. might be used to integrate this.

I'm not certain yet on the IP status of the Mythos monsters. That will bear further investigation before I consider adding them.

[Zenopus]

May 1, 2013 22:37:28 GMT -6 Vile Traveller said:

I think Zenopus posted his interpretation of the giant gila monster somewhere.

Yes, there's a link to it over in the New Monsters thread in the Holmes forum. Also an Ancient Builder, my take on the South Polar Old Ones (from Lovecraft via Holmes in the Cthulhu in D&D article) that Scott mentioned above.

[owlorbs]

Very cool. Has any one done up a Dreenoi stat block or a character class?

[Vile Traveller]

Not yet. I contacted John McEwan and he awesomely gave me permission to use Dreenoi, when I get to the monsters chapter I'll go through the StarGuard rules again and wok out how to BLUEHOLMEsify them.

[thorswulf]

I'd give them a good AC, due to their chitinous bodies, and a decent bare-handed damage and bite attack, Their racial telepathy and the ability of the brain bugs to read other minds is a must too!

[Vile Traveller]

I've posted an updated Compleat list of Creatures on my blog: dreamscapedesign.net/2014/01/05/ye-compleat-list-of-creatures/

The list is basically built of the monsters mentioned but not statted out in the Blue Book, plus creatures mentioned elsewhere in the writings of John Holmes. I do not intend to expand the list beyond this in an effort at completism. However, I'm sure many of the eminent posters on this board can spot some missing links in that list (I've just seen a few by looking at the earlier posts in this thread).

1) If you can point me at a reference that I've missed, I'll be very grateful and your name will go into the big acknowlegments list.

2) If you actually want to give me a set of stats and a brief description - in your own words - you will become a contributor and qualify for one of those sought-after contributor's copies of the Compleat Rules PDF when it is published.

[machpants]

What actually needs writing up? Most are in the Prentice set, I guess.

[Vile Traveller]

I didn't include that many extras in the Prentice Rules beyond what was already included in the Blue Book. By the way, I've just been given an excellent list of what looks like almost every monster ever mentioned by Holmes in his writings. I've added them to my blog post, so it looks like the list is pretty complete now.

The ones that would need writing up would be any that are not on this updated list:

dreamscapedesign.net/2014/01/05/ye-compleat-list-of-creatures/

[Vile Traveller]

Thanks to that fine gentleman known as Hawklord on these forums, I have what seems to be a very comprehensive list of my missing Holmesian monsters:

Allosaurus – (ALC1)
Angel – (COADM)
Byakhee - (LOVECRAFT)
Cat-Man - (FRPG)
Dagon avatar (animated statue?) –(MOP)
Deep One (listed as "phibians" on your list) – "Frog-Heads" (MOP) called “the Deep Ones” by Ebeneezer on page 105 (LOVECRAFT)
Dolphin, talking - (ALC2)
Dragon Turtle – (ALC2)
Flower Stalks - sprays anesthetic pollen (FRPG)
Gorgon - (BAG)
Great Race, The - (LOVECRAFT)
Kraken, Giant - (AGC)
Kraken, Tiny - (ALC2)
Lamia - (AGC2)
Lammasu - (FRPG)
Lilliputian - (BAG)
Lion (Cat, Great?) - (FRPG)
Lizard, Giant Chameleon - (AGC)
Lizard, Giant Gila Monster - (FRPG)
Lizard Folk - (FRPG)
Mammoth - (FRPG)
Mermaid - (ALC2)
Mi-Go – Fungi from Yuggoth (COADM) (LOVECRAFT)
, Atlantean - (ALC2)
Old Ones, The – a.k.a. Primordial Ones in DDG (LOVECRAFT)
Pellucidar denizens – stats for Mahars, Sagoths and Thipdars in A&E #18
Piercer - (FRPG)
Sand-shark – sand tiger shark? (MOP)
Satyr - (MOP)
Shaggoth (a.k.a. Shoggoth) - (LOVECRAFT) (REBUTTAL)
Spawn of Cthulhu – (ALC2)
Tentacle - (FRPG)
Tree Root Monster things – (BAG)
Triceratops – (ALC1)
Troll, Sea –(ALC2)
Turtle, Giant - (ALC2)
Tyrannosaurus - (FRPG)
Water-nymph - (FRPG)


CITATIONS

FRPG – Fantasy Role-Playing Games
WFH – Warrior-For-Hire (Alarums & Excursions #11)
MOP – Maze of Peril
WS – Were-shark (Alarums & Excursions #13) Chapter 2 of MOP
AGC – The Adventure of the Giant Chameleon (Alarums & Excursions #14)
ALC1 – Adventure of the Lost City: Part One (Alarums & Excursions #17)
ALC2 – Adventure of the Lost City: Part Two (Alarums & Excursions #19)
TH – Trollshead (Dragon #31)
TSJ – The Sorcerer’s Jewel (Dragon #46)
BAG – In the Bag (Dragon #58)
COADM – “Confessions of a Dungeon Master” (Psychology Today v. 14, no. 6 (Nov. 1980))
LOVECRAFT - "The Lovecraftian Mythos in D&D" (Dragon #12)
REBUTTAL – “A Rebuttal to ‘The Cthulhu Mythos Revisited’ by Gerald Guinn” (Dragon #16)

[Vile Traveller]

Now, some of the above will probably not make it into the Compleat Rules, for various reasons:

The monsters in "The Lovecraftian Mythos in D&D" from Dragon #12 will only get in if I'm reasonably sure there are no IP issues, otherwise only some analogue thereof will be possible.

Lilliputians are too tied to a articular tale, so they too will have to be genericised in some way before they get into the book.

The specific creatures (chameleon, gila monster, lion) are already covered under the generic versions like great lizards and great cats. There is a section at the end of the creatures chapter about adding specific traits to creatures (such as oil/dung/fire/tiger beetles, etc.), which this sort of thing fits into nicely.

[Vile Traveller]

I'm happy to report that, with the kind permission of that fine scholar Zenopus, that green grabbers will also be making an appearance in the Compleat Rules.