If anyone is interested it appears there is a large grassroots effort to salvage a John Carter franchise, and given the crappy films that have had no end of sequels, I'd say its worth it, since this was not a crappy film by any means. I signed the petition and there is also a volunteer form--I mentioned this forum to the people running the site and told them about John Carter's influences on D&D and told them they should enlist the gaming community. My blog has been very dead but I hope to revive it soon!
I'll help as much as I can, but I doubt anyone will pick it up after the financial disaster the first one was.
I read somewhere (memory check fail) that the first movie wasn't as bad off financially as was earlier reported. Apparently the non-US market was a lot stronger than the US one and they have regained a lot of money from DVD sales.
I feel like the whole mess comes down to: 1. The fact that marketing was poorly done. (I read that the guy responsible is no longer employed.) 2. The fact that early reviews were bad, even though later reviews were really good. (Early reviews seem to dictate the market more than they should.)
I would think that a lot of the expense of the original could also be shared with a sequal to lessen the effect of each. Props and CGI techneques and so on are already developed, so they should be a lot cheaper the second time around.
Fingers crossed on this!
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"Don't ask me what you need to hit. Just roll the die and I will let you know!" - Dave Arneson
This film cost successive Disney studio heads their jobs, the guy who launched the project and the guy who released it. Successive heads of marketing were canned, god knows what kind of damage was done at the vp level in all departments. Andrew Stanton worked for a decade to get out of animation and undid it all at a stroke. Declared loss of nearly a quarter billion.
Regardless of the film's merits or those of the source material, clamoring for a sequel to this mess is a waste of time -- this movie is toxic for killing so many careers. Focus on other ERB material or other kinds of projects (episodic tv, animation, whatever), but do not even mention "John Carter" and "sequel" in the same sentence except as a curse.
I went into the theater ready to hate on it and ended up thoroughly enjoying the film. Went back and saw it a second time, on IMAX. Have it on DVD. And this from a guy who hates Disney since it changed.
The real problem could be the average American movie goer and their love of the blather that comes down the Hollywood garbage chute on a daily basis.
We may not have a cultural context anymore wherein John Carter could be a hero and Barsoom fascinating to more than a few.
And although its now being castigated as an excuse by some, the fact is that marketing did have alot to do with why it didn't do better. Nonetheless, I'm firmly convinced this film will make a comeback, if only because it will lead a lot of people to the books.
I have faith that this material will see film again, and if it isn't Disney, so much the better. I'd like to see another interpretation of it actually.