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Post by crimhthanthegreat on Nov 22, 2007 22:22:34 GMT -6
Hey Fin or anyone else how about a summary when you have time thank you! Fight in the Skies (1975) was later renamed Dawn Patrol.
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Post by tgamemaster1975 on Nov 24, 2007 23:07:58 GMT -6
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Post by jrients on Nov 29, 2007 13:32:55 GMT -6
I corresponded briefly with the author, Mr. Carr, a few years back. I was curious if the proto-role-playing elements (tracking and advancing a character over multiple sessions, basically) were present in FitS from the very beginning. He siad that they were. Now, whenever I feel like stirring up trouble I like to suggest that D&D wasn't the first rpg.
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Post by grodog on Dec 8, 2007 21:25:58 GMT -6
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Post by darneson on May 29, 2008 20:52:17 GMT -6
Mike does a Dawn Patrol at GENCON every year Usually early on Saturday (7 AM)
By Saturday I am too wasted to attend it.
No advancement as Role Playing that I am aware of.
Dave Arneson
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Post by coffee on Oct 30, 2008 23:47:07 GMT -6
There's a nice looking copy up on ebay right now. Item no. 310096497700.
I'd bid, but I'm in the process of buying a house...
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Post by Finarvyn on Oct 31, 2008 12:49:22 GMT -6
I might bid on this, but it's already over $35 including shipping. Any idea what this game "should" sell for?
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Post by kesher on Oct 31, 2008 15:17:33 GMT -6
Fin, I bought this same edition in a "Make a Best Offer" auction for a total, after shipping, of around $21. Mine was punched and the box mildly scuffed, but otherwise it was in great shape. If you're not fixated on this particular edition, the 2nd edition is available at Noble Knight Games for a very reasonable $15. Also, I keep meaning to add to this thread: The game, even this early TSR edition, is definitely, imo, a workable rpg. There's a whole section in the rules on pilot and navigator advancement. I was actually surprised how detailed it is, given that everyone talks about Dawn Patrol as the "rpg version." So, in answer to your question, $35 seems a bit high to me, unless you specifically want an unpunched version of this particular edition.
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darneson
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Post by darneson on Oct 31, 2008 16:12:04 GMT -6
Not too surprising since Mike was the 'Bishop" in the original campaign. As well as The Reverand in the Wild West campaign.
Dave Arneson "Dark Lord of Gaming"
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Post by Finarvyn on Nov 1, 2008 8:46:22 GMT -6
Fin, I bought this same edition in a "Make a Best Offer" auction for a total, after shipping, of around $21. Mine was punched and the box mildly scuffed, but otherwise it was in great shape. If you're not fixated on this particular edition, the 2nd edition is available at Noble Knight Games for a very reasonable $15. I haven't fixated on any particular edition yet but was just hoping to score one at a good price. So, what's the difference between editions? Is there a particular advantage or disadvantage to either one?
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Post by kesher on Nov 2, 2008 12:18:10 GMT -6
As far as I can tell, and this is from looking at images online here, reading Mike Carr's history of the game on his website (linked in Crimthan's OP), and perusing BoardGameGeek, there's no substantial difference. I think they simply moved or reprinted some plane data in a separate booklet. The box, of course, is different. I happen to think the 1st ed. TSR box is far more striking, but that's just me. A couple of interesting notes: 1. TSR's first ed. is actually, if I'm remembering correctly, the 5th ed. of the game itself. 2. I was, once again, reading through Lawrence Schick's monumental work Heroic Worlds (if you don't own this book, go and buy it NOW.) On pg. 18, talking about the origin of Dungeons & Dragons, he states the following: Brackets, of course, by me. Dave, if you read this, does that sound right to you? I've never heard it mentioned before, and somehow missed it on previous readings of Shick's essay. Aaron * edited for clarity
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