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Post by havard on Jul 19, 2010 3:56:39 GMT -6
I heard Dave Arneson was supposed to feature in a cameo in the first D&D film, but that this was cut in the final production (but may have been included in the bonus material of the DVD)? Does anyone have it?
Havard
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 19, 2010 5:02:38 GMT -6
I've heard this as well.
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Post by piper on Jul 19, 2010 6:30:47 GMT -6
He wasn't cut, you can see him in the group of wizards in the final battle. He just isn't very prominent. I'll post a screen cap, later. Edit: my mistake. Apparently the scene was cut, I was recalling a deleted scene from the DVD. Here is a screenie, the first image is a complete screen capture, the second is just Dave with the rest of the scene edited out.
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Post by havard on Jul 19, 2010 7:41:08 GMT -6
Awesome Piper, thanks alot! I wonder if his character had a name... Havard
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Post by piper on Jul 19, 2010 8:49:27 GMT -6
IMDb lists his role as "cameo" so I'm going to assume not.
In the DVD commentary Dave talks about the role as just being an extra. He sounds pretty laid back so it is tough to tell for certain, but it sounds like he got a real kick out of being on the set.
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Post by piper on Jul 19, 2010 9:11:33 GMT -6
As an aside, the words "D&D Creator" gave me pause. I didn't add those, they were onscreen when I did that capture.
Not, let me hasten to point out, that I disagree with those words.
Rather, it was my understanding the one result of the legal issues with Gygax was that Arneson and Gygax were supposed to be credited as "co-creators" of the game.
Does anyone besides me recall hearing that?
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Post by thegreyelf on Jul 19, 2010 10:15:59 GMT -6
Well, it doesn't say he was the ONLY D&D Creator.
And to be fair, Dave was "A" Creator of D&D.
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Post by piper on Jul 19, 2010 10:29:39 GMT -6
Sure, the semantics are correct. I was thinking more along the lines of it being a legal issue to specifically use the word "co-creator" when citing authorship of the Dungeons & Dragons Role-Playing game, though that may have applied only to TSR's publications (now that I think it through a bit more).
Sort of like when Avalon, the folks that make home craft kits (candle making and the like) threatened to sue anyone who referred to The Avalon Hill Game Company as "Avalon". Their threat had some effect, causing most folks to go a slightly simpler route of just saying "Avalon Hill" in print.
(edited for grammar)
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Post by blackbarn on Jul 20, 2010 22:44:22 GMT -6
That scene was cut out? I could swear I remember it, where all the wizards stand there and shoot off some spell only to be killed instantly by the dragons. I'm not gonna' watch that movie again to make sure though!
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