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Post by tkdco2 on Dec 24, 2014 18:32:59 GMT -6
Interesting stuff, Malcadon. Thanks for sharing.
The fact that there's more than meets the eye is the reason NASA produces composite images of different objects in space. The different space telescopes each take a photo in a different wavelength (IR/visible/UV/X-ray) than combine the photos to give a clearer picture of what's going on.
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Post by Malcadon on Dec 24, 2014 23:07:37 GMT -6
Fascinating. We are blind to many of the beauties that surround us.
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Thanks guys. Even I lament to how limited our color range is. There is great wide world of brilliant hues out there, and we are missing out on it! In the future, though cybernetics, genetic alteration etc., we may live in a world were strange new colors are visible to the naked eye, and I hope to be able to live to see that happen, but with all the advancements in science and engineering, it is not at all foolish to be overly optimistic over the potential for these developments. I cant wait! |
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Post by hagbard on Dec 25, 2014 21:56:02 GMT -6
I'm color blind, so I'd be happy with a simple blue
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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 4, 2015 14:07:31 GMT -6
Here's another idea: Let jale = infrared and ulfire = ultraviolet. Then dolm would be a region in the yellow-green area, where Earth humans would see white light, because the cones in the human eye also capture red and blue in this region. Carcosa humans would thus be able to see the ultraviolet and infrared regions of the spectrum, at least in part.
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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 10, 2015 23:28:27 GMT -6
With my previous post in mind, perhaps I'll change my colors around. My original set-up was
Ulfire = red
Dolm = purple/violet
Jale = green
If ulfire = ultraviolet and jale = infrared, the new set-up would be
Ulfire = purple/violet
Dolm = green (Ulfire mixed with blue would shift the color toward the visible spectrum)
Jale = red
This would also make the description of dolm more accurate, as it was described as being green to jale's red.
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Post by tkdco2 on May 30, 2016 18:37:44 GMT -6
A couple of questions crossed my mind a few days ago. Would people from Earth automatically be able to see ulfire, jale, and dolm if they land in Carcosa? And would they be able to see them after returning to Earth? Perhaps those colors exist on Earth, but they would appear as transparent to most folks. Most people would be surprised when the space travelers start buying a bunch of colorless, transparent materials "because of the pretty colors."
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Post by Malcadon on May 30, 2016 21:48:04 GMT -6
The other day, I had an idea... What if Bone-men have a degree of infravision and/or ultravision that allows them to see their flesh as opaque? On top of that, what if they see other races looking more or less the same color, but they see their own skin (and the world around them) more vibrantly? The enhanced vision would be good compensation for the general stigma that comes with playing them. Also, it make treating Bone-men easier, if they can see their own injuries. And I like the idea that people who look so... ahem... bare bones in appearance, would have have a special outlook on the would all other would be blind too — even in a world with a focus on colors that are utterly alien to us. A couple of questions crossed my mind a few days ago. Would people from Earth automatically be able to see ulfire, jale, and dolm if they land in Carcosa? And would they be able to see them after returning to Earth? Perhaps those colors exist on Earth, but they would appear as transparent to most folks. Most people would be surprised when the space travelers start buying a bunch of colorless, traansparent materials "because of the pretty colors." Maskull, a man form Earth, was able to see those colors while on Tormance, in the book A Voyage to Arcturus. Although, in real-life, our range of preservable colors are limited to what our eyes can pickup. (Although, recent scientific discoveries shows that we, with the right equipment, optics or lack there of, are able to see colors that we are otherwise blind to.) But being a science fantasy, "physics" is a highly subjective and malleable concept in the hands of a creative and imaginative writer or DM. Basically, its like a silver-age comic book, and that is not a bad thing!  |
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Post by burningtorso on May 31, 2016 18:58:59 GMT -6
This is how I run it in my games. I also have the Bone Men blood become visible when it oxidizes outside the body.
Skelus: The actual color of Bone Men skin/flesh. Other races see it as transparent, though Bone Men/Women can see themselves. Some other creatures on Carcosa that are transparent are also of the "Skelus" spectrum. Others are just simply transparent. The technology of the Space Aliens can interpret with specialized scanners, though Bone Men who have observed these scans find the image highly lacking, much like an Earth human comparing a Color HD TV image to an old analog black and white television. You get the rough idea but miss out on so much more.
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Post by tkdco2 on Jun 1, 2016 0:20:24 GMT -6
What if Bone Man flesh is identical to that of Terrans? Most of Carcosa's inhabitants except for Bone Men can't see those colors, so Terrans would appear as Bone Men to Carcosans. Terrans and Carcosans would see each others' skin easily. Ulfire, Jale, and Dolm Men would look like Bone Men to Terrans.
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Post by Malcadon on Jun 23, 2016 12:15:48 GMT -6
If you want inspiration for the level of depravity found in Carcosian sorcerous rituals, or the madness that comes with Cthulhu waking form his prolonged beauty nap, then check out the ultra-graphic comic book Crossed. The comic is about a mysterious diseases — named for the cross-shaped scar it leaves across the face — that causes the victims to indulge in ones most violent and depraved fantasies. It is like a zombie-apocalypses, but instead of a plague turning people into mindless walking corpses with a taste for "BRAAAINS!!!", it turns people into murderous, sadistic, cannibalistic psychopaths and rapists with absolutely no sense of restraint (and worst of all, they don't even tip their waitress). Or in the words of Zoë Washburne from Firefly: "If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing. And, if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order."Be warned! This is not a comic for the faint of heart! You'll need a 18+ CON (and age) to read it! The art is awesomely heavy-handed like the artwork in the "Grindhouse Edition" of LotFP:RPG. This site has almost 150 images of the Crossed in action. And as noted: Really NSFW! The artist form Crossed, Jacen Burrows, also worked on some Lovecraftian comics, like Alan Moore's Neonomicon and Yuggoth Creatures. (Oops! This post was meant for When I think of Carcosa, I think of... or Random Carcosa Musings. I mush have had the wrong tab up at the time.  ) |
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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 5, 2017 20:53:31 GMT -6
Sorry for the thread necromancy, but it turns out TV Tropes has an entry for the Carcosa setting under "Fictional Colour." tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FictionalColourI also asked my sister how she would describe jale, ulfire, and dolm. She thought jale sounded like a green texture, and ulfire was red-orange. I asked her about dolm and told her it was a mix of ulfire and blue. She said red-orange mixed with blue would look like the color of poop! |
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Post by Malcadon on Aug 7, 2017 3:38:18 GMT -6
Sorry for the thread necromancy, but it turns out TV Tropes has an entry for the Carcosa setting under "Fictional Colour." tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FictionalColourI also asked my sister how she would describe jale, ulfire, and dolm. She thought jale sounded like a green texture, and ulfire was red-orange. I asked her about dolm and told her it was a mix of ulfire and blue. She said red-orange mixed with blue would look like the color of poop! No prob! If not for Necromancy, family reunions would be really boring. Yep, that entry was my doing (same with Wikipedia). (I should added a note about the book the colors came from with a "as listed above in Literature." or something like it.) I totally agree with your sister. Back in school, it felt like I was having to make color-wheels every year! Mixing "complementary" (opposite) and "split-complementary" (opposite, but a hue off) colors tends to make ugly pigments, as the colors cancel each other out. |
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Post by geoffrey on Aug 7, 2017 19:19:14 GMT -6
By coincidence, I finished my fifth (or so) re-reading of David Lindsay's A Voyage to Arcturus today. Highly recommended! Read it slowly and let everything sink in. While undoubtedly someone could blow through it in an afternoon, I would say that that would be a waste of an afternoon. This is a book to savor.
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