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Post by geoffrey on Jan 23, 2022 20:28:03 GMT -6
Regarding the monster rosters in Moldvay's 1981 Basic D&D rulebook and in Cook and Marsh's 1981 Expert D&D rulebook:
I can trace all but two of these monsters back to the 1974 D&D game or to one of its supplements (1975-76) or to The Dragon #13 (April 1978).
Can anyone find an antecedent to either the devil swine or to the frost salamander in anything pre-dating the 1981 Expert D&D rulebook? If not, perhaps one or both of them originated in Cook's or in Marsh's D&D campaign.
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Parzival
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Post by Parzival on Feb 1, 2022 16:48:18 GMT -6
According to blogger Bighara, Frank Mentzer told him that the monster was created by either Moldvay or Cook, which would imply that it did indeed first appear in the Expert Rulebook, probably based on a critter developed in Moldvay or Cook’s campaign. geekechoes.blogspot.com/2012/04/rma-devil-swine.html
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Post by bigjackbrass on Feb 2, 2022 6:39:23 GMT -6
Outside of official D&D (and a trifle off topic) there's a wonderfully sinister illustration of Devil Swine by Luka Rejec in the Old-School Essentials Monsters book from 2019:  The veneer of manners and civilisation makes them all the more terrifying.
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