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Post by tkdco2 on Mar 12, 2022 14:51:01 GMT -6
That scale would work well for large battles, but the miniatures would be too hard on my old eyes. I would easily lose them, and my cats will probably eat them.
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Post by rsdean on Mar 13, 2022 5:32:16 GMT -6
I have a bunch of 6mm fantasy figures from Irregular; as tkdco2 says, they make for a good large battle, but it wouldn’t be my first choice of scale for depicting line of march with individual figures. We generally use Hordes of the Things as the rules of choice with them, which is “one stand of figures = one unit” and the stands generally have ~2 Irregular 5-figure strips on each one. (http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/). After reading this thread last night, I went and took a look at their catalog. It’s stuck in the late ‘90s based on frames, so I can’t link directly to the 6mm fantasy page. Choose 6mm along the bottom, and then scroll down the list on the left until you get to “Fantasy Range”. They’ve added a bunch of stuff recently, so I wonder of I would still be able to paint 6s…
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Post by hamurai on Mar 13, 2022 23:06:08 GMT -6
I paint a lot, and I've given the small 6 mm ones a try, but I won't do again. They're just too small for my taste, losing detail. They were mostly a chore to paint, or at least I didn't enjoy them as much as painting bigger minis.
Most terrain available is for bigger minis and crafting your own on a small scale might not be as easy, depending on what you want to do, of course. Giant terrain pieces for mass battles will probably come easier, but for skirmish kind of games I prefer more detailed terrain to be able to make the most of it.
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Post by Parzival on Mar 16, 2022 8:02:22 GMT -6
The place to go for all things 6mm is Baccus: www.baccus6mm.com/ The key to smaller scales is blocks of colors. Don’t attempt anything else. They aren’t meant for close viewing as individuals; they’re meant to be seen as large bodies of men/critters in ranks, viewed from a distance. Look at the pics on the Baccus site and you’ll get what the purpose is. I have some 6mm Early Imperial Romans and Dacians from Baccus, which are on my “get around to painting” list (and have been for a while). It’s not my go to scale— I mostly paint 10mm— but I got these to create a more portable game… one of these days…
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Post by rsdean on Mar 16, 2022 14:42:47 GMT -6
The place to go for all things 6mm is Baccus: www.baccus6mm.com/ The key to smaller scales is blocks of colors. Don’t attempt anything else. They aren’t meant for close viewing as individuals; they’re meant to be seen as large bodies of men/critters in ranks, viewed from a distance. Look at the pics on the Baccus site and you’ll get what the purpose is. I have some 6mm Early Imperial Romans and Dacians from Baccus, which are on my “get around to painting” list (and have been for a while). It’s not my go to scale— I mostly paint 10mm— but I got these to create a more portable game… one of these days… That’s interesting. I haven’t looked at Baccus in a long time (since I haven’t been painting or buying 6s lately), and the fantasy range is certainly new since the last time I looked. But, with all of my already finished 6s being Irregular, I’d have to order samples and see whether they mixed to my satisfaction.
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Post by rsdean on Mar 16, 2022 14:50:19 GMT -6
I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts on the use of 5/6 mm figures. Conceptually, it seems like the scale I'm interested in. I like that it seems to equate best to the scales of OD&D, with one inch being close to 10 yards/30 feet. While I like painted figures, I don't do it myself, and it wouldn't be an element that concerns me. If I could, I'd buy painted figures. Any positives and negatives people have with the use of this scale? Things like availability, use of terrain, etc. are all "on the table," so to speak. I had to scrounge around my blog a bit to find any pictures of my 6s in action; the first three in this 2012 convention report are such: sharpbrush.blogspot.com/2012/05/huzzah-aar.htmlIt will be nearly impossible to manipulate individual figures. On the other hand, you can paint wood blocks to represent buildings quickly. I guess I’d want to know more about what you were thinking you wanted to DO with the miniatures besides show people vis-a-vis accurate ground scale…
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Post by tkdco2 on Mar 16, 2022 19:35:08 GMT -6
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Post by tkdco2 on Mar 17, 2022 14:56:31 GMT -6
Does the new Speedpaint line reactivate on miniature? Apparently, results may vary, but one of the comments states that it's less of an issue when using Army Painter primer than other primers. Also if you like slotta bases have you tried this method? Instead of gluing your miniature to the base, keep in unglued and change the base according to the terrain. It will make your miniatures a bit more modular. I still don't like how they make your model appear to levitate 2 feet, but YMMV.
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Post by rsdean on Mar 18, 2022 9:16:32 GMT -6
I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts on the use of 5/6 mm figures. Conceptually, it seems like the scale I'm interested in. I like that it seems to equate best to the scales of OD&D, with one inch being close to 10 yards/30 feet. While I like painted figures, I don't do it myself, and it wouldn't be an element that concerns me. If I could, I'd buy painted figures. Any positives and negatives people have with the use of this scale? Things like availability, use of terrain, etc. are all "on the table," so to speak. discord.com/channels/352463763514982411/352463763959447552/954395246756757524Guess this won’t work to Discord as a linked image, but there’s a single 6mm figure and my fingers. Honestly, I don’t think it would be practical to handle (or view) them that way.
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Post by Mordorandor on Mar 19, 2022 19:51:17 GMT -6
Thanks for the insight into the 6mm line. Yes they are fairly small. Smaller than I had imagined. For some reason, taking a 15 mm and imagining "half the size" didn't serve me well.
As for use, I imagined them being even more suitable for use in imagining relative positions on a smaller, typical playing table. I've had the opportunity to play where the tables and setups were vast, but that is generally the exception not the rule.
Maybe the 10 mm lines are better. Likely a lot of painted Warmaster figs out there too.
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Post by Parzival on Mar 19, 2022 23:32:12 GMT -6
Keep in mind that Warmaster 10mm were largely produced as strips, not individual figures, so in many cases the figures are all molded together and inseparable. However, there are a number of manufacturers who produce individual 10mm figures. Copplestone Castings has a “not Lord of the Rings” line which is excellent, though a bit limited in variety; it’s Tolkien, not D&D: www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/Magister Militum is currently building a sizable selection with a lot of variety. Pendraken/Kallistra also have some nice figs— but these tend to be slightly larger in scale (more like 12mm than 10mm). Eureka Miniatures has some excellent and off-beat figures as well. And if you have access to a 3D printer, there’s a new company producing files based on GW’s Warmaster figs, but with completely original sculpts. My personal collection consists of GW (Warmaster and Lord of the Rings/Battle of Five Armies), Kallistra, Eureka, Copplestone, Old Glory, and some 15mm “giant bats” from Splintered Light, because how big is a giant bat anyway? If you’ve never been there, TheMiniaturesPage.com is an excellent resource for finding info on all types of miniature scales.
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Post by rsdean on Mar 20, 2022 4:54:56 GMT -6
My club has been doing a bunch of 10mm stuff, but I haven’t been joining them for that. Like typical 6s, they have generally been going in the direction of fielding units with larger numbers of individual figures. I did run across a YouTube video recommending the use of 10mm in D&D recently: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAyTnM-dc4E&t=23sI might note that his view is based on 3D printing a lot of stuff, so how practical it would be without being a 3D printing adept is open to some question. (When I get the urge to make my own minis, I have a collection of, inter alia, Prince August fantasy molds. Pouring molten metal isn’t for the faint-hearted either. )
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Post by rsdean on Apr 1, 2022 4:23:04 GMT -6
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If anyone anticipates a need for a huge box of miniatures two years from now, Reaper opened their Bones 6 Kickstarter yesterday. I’ve backed all of the previous ones, and they are a good value proposition, but the delivery time means that I have very little idea what I will be interested in two years from now. I think that I am going to stick to filling out a D&D game and supporting table top battles with vintage/small/true 25s for the time being.
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Post by tkdco2 on Apr 1, 2022 18:31:35 GMT -6
Here's some 2-D terrain.Most of them look okay, but I still think the fields look more like Mac & Cheese.
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Post by tkdco2 on Apr 6, 2022 15:47:36 GMT -6
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Post by hamurai on Apr 6, 2022 22:23:40 GMT -6
This doesn't look like it'd save me time, so I wouldn't try it. It's certainly interesting to see how it'd be done, though.
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Post by tkdco2 on Apr 6, 2022 23:35:15 GMT -6
I was trying to find a video showing how most of the owner's Napoleonic troops were left unpainted except for a few bits colored with metallic Sharpies.
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Post by skars on Apr 7, 2022 22:00:03 GMT -6
While I see a discussion on 6mm scale the two primary champions of the scale weren't mentioned (or I missed it Microarmor being the first and foremost producer for this scale and prolific over the years. The second for me is Epic warhammer 40k. Just an awesome scale for big battles while including large war engines and tanks. 10mm/N scale is my next favorite like the scale mentioned for warmaster. it really is a nice balance between 6mm aka 1/285th and 15mm and usually comes in handy strips. Pendraken is another producer of the small guys
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Post by rsdean on Apr 8, 2022 5:03:11 GMT -6
That’s certainly true. Mordorandor was discussing using 6mm with D&D (implying fantasy), though, so throwing a horde of Sherman Firefly tanks against the group wasn’t the first thought that crossed my mind. . 6mm micorarmor has the advantage that the tanks (at least mid-WWII and beyond) are big enough to think about handling. (I’ve got a small Spanish Civil War set up, where PzIs in Nationalist service are pretty physically small…)
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Post by tkdco2 on Apr 11, 2022 17:59:17 GMT -6
I was trying to find a video showing how most of the owner's Napoleonic troops were left unpainted except for a few bits colored with metallic Sharpies. Found it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoMRGsjOuIU
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Post by tkdco2 on Apr 28, 2022 13:36:53 GMT -6
This video shows how to make paper soldiers for wargaming. The soldiers are for historical wargaming, but you can adapt the method for fantasy and science fiction.
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Post by flightcommander on Apr 29, 2022 2:29:15 GMT -6
A-ha, these would be the paper miniatures from Peter Dennis of Osprey fame — I've purchased a few of the Helion books (I built quite an armada during the pandemic) as well as some of the digital sets from peterspaperboys.com ... While most of his work is historical, he does have some more recent fantasy-oriented sets available. His style of illustration is wonderful and his attention to historical detail impressive.
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Post by rsdean on Apr 29, 2022 7:19:53 GMT -6
I picked up ~3 of them during the pandemic, Little Wars, medieval castle attack, and maybe something horse and musket, and they got shelved without doing anything with them shortly thereafter. It’s probably past time to dig them out… I *might* have the card-modeling chops to build the War of the Worlds tripods from the Little Wars book…
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Post by tkdco2 on May 7, 2022 15:15:10 GMT -6
Here's one way to fix the reactivation issue in Speedpaints: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RkANMwlBhAThat said, a lot of posters say it's not as big a problem as some have made it to be. It's possible that people want the paints to do everything, but like everything else, they have their limitations.
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Post by vasious on May 9, 2022 20:43:16 GMT -6
Here's one way to fix the reactivation issue in Speedpaints: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RkANMwlBhAThat said, a lot of posters say it's not as big a problem as some have made it to be. It's possible that people want the paints to do everything, but like everything else, they have their limitations. One thing I noted with a lot of the reviews of the speed paints, were that they were by people with a high level of skill who wish to apply additional techniques to the figure. It was "reactiviating" when they were applying additional highlights and washes etc. But for someone like me who is probably the target market, where it is prime then one layer of speed paint, it probably isn't an issue I would encounter, and it does what is says on the box That said I have not tried it, waiting for Local stockist to get some in to give it a go.
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Post by tkdco2 on May 10, 2022 4:45:41 GMT -6
From what I heard, the paints will reactivate if additional layers with a lot of water content are applied. Drybrushing a layer shouldn't be a problem.
The people who have tried the paints agree they do a good job if they're used as they were meant to be. I haven't tried them either, although I'm curious. I would invest in them if I were still painting miniatures regularly.
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Post by tkdco2 on May 10, 2022 22:24:59 GMT -6
One question I have about the speed paints is how well they mix to make new colors. I've seen a few people mix different shades of the same color, but I haven't seen anyone mix primary colors to make secondary and neutral colors.
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Post by hamurai on May 10, 2022 22:33:46 GMT -6
I've extensively used Citadel's Contrast Paints and they're mostly doing a great job once you've learned how much to apply and how to spread the paint once applied. I've painted lots of miniatures with 90% Speedpaint over a Corax White primer with (in my opinion) great results. They're extremely useful when you want to make colour gradients. That said, I'm painting to play the minis, not to make displays of them. But I've found my personal style with those Contrast Paints and the fact that they save me a lot of time is a major factor for me, as I don't have that much time to paint. That leaves me more time to play, of course Here's a dwarf mage (a metal mini) for Saga Age of Magic painted in a couple of minutes: The dwarf team for Blitz Bowl, also mostly Contrast Paint (apart from the gold): My first tries with Contrast Paint, some figues for Frostgrave: And the enemies for Blackstone Fortress (the colour gradient of the flame was a piece of cake done in about a minute or two):
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Post by tkdco2 on May 11, 2022 15:02:35 GMT -6
I notice that a lot of our posts concern paints rather than miniatures. Should we split the topic or start a new one about painting? Of course, that depends on the amount of interest in the topic.
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Post by Mordorandor on May 11, 2022 16:00:01 GMT -6
To be fair, the painting does concern the painting of miniatures and not that of barns, soffits, portraits, or the town green.
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