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Post by Red Baron on Mar 1, 2019 7:46:20 GMT -6
I can't remember elves using magic in the hobbit.
Elrond points out moon runes on the map, and the wood elves lure the dwarfs into the woods until they are lost and capture them by surprise, but neither of those are really magical. I would say the wood elves might have had elfin boots/cloaks. Am I forgetting something?
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Post by Zenopus on Mar 1, 2019 9:21:43 GMT -6
The disappearing, moving elven feast in Mirkwood always seemed magical to me, like something fey from a faerie tale.
"No sooner had the first stepped into the clearing than all the lights went out as if by magic."
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Post by kipper on Mar 1, 2019 9:28:14 GMT -6
If you include magic weapons, Glamdring, Orcrist, and Sting are all said to be elven blades, albeit forged long ago and not currently in use by the elves.
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Post by doublejig2 on Mar 1, 2019 12:51:46 GMT -6
Though not mentioned in the Hobbit, both Gandolf and Elrond wield Elvish rings of great power.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 17:24:24 GMT -6
I believe Tolkien clarifies in his letters that he didn't like to ascribe the word "magic" to anything other than the devices of the Enemy, which is why Elves, Dwarves and others are said to be "crafty" or to practice "arts" instead. These "crafts" and "arts" are more fundamentally tied to Arda and less overtly displayed than what Melkor or Sauron and their servants use. Whenever a character calls such things magical, as with Bilbo's perception, it's because of an ignorant and naive use of the word that doesn't represent the actual destructive implications of evil sorcery. (Hobbits are said to be resistant to evil and corruption in part because they've never been exposed to it very much.) So, while Bilbo may have used the word, neither the Elves nor Tolkien would encourage him to say such things.
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