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Post by sixdemonbag on Mar 12, 2018 12:52:00 GMT -6
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Post by murquhart72 on Mar 12, 2018 19:02:58 GMT -6
Oh yeah, they look MUCH better inked!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 16:06:09 GMT -6
Picked up a couple sets a while back. My daughter enjoys coloring them.  |
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Post by clownboss on Jul 27, 2018 5:41:06 GMT -6
You'll pick somebody's eye out with that!
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 27, 2018 15:51:28 GMT -6
Side note to Piper: the original six-sided were red, the orange in my picture earlier was due to poor lighting. Maybe I'll add pics of those dice another time. Interesting. I have several sets of the original dice and my d6's are all orange except for one pink one, and I'm not sure that it came with a set or not. None of my original d6's were red. (Actually, none of my original dice of any shape were red.) |
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Post by Zenopus on Jul 27, 2018 20:59:28 GMT -6
Side note to Piper: the original six-sided were red, the orange in my picture earlier was due to poor lighting. Maybe I'll add pics of those dice another time. Interesting. I have several sets of the original dice and my d6's are all orange except for one pink one, and I'm not sure that it came with a set or not. None of my original d6's were red. (Actually, none of my original dice of any shape were red.) The color of those d6s is deceptive. Some people's eyes see it as orange, some see it as red. The lighting can change the way it appears, particularly in photos, which I think has contributed to the confusion. |
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Post by waysoftheearth on Jul 27, 2018 21:07:08 GMT -6
Gamescience now offer distinct red and orange sets (e.g., see here: www.gamescience.com/Polyhedral-7-Die-Set_c_4.html ) whether or not that has always been so may be another matter... edit: Inserted one space between the URL and the closing parenthesis so that ProBoards doesn't erroneously include the parenthesis in the link. |
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Post by waysoftheearth on Jul 27, 2018 21:23:06 GMT -6
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Post by Finarvyn on Jul 28, 2018 4:55:20 GMT -6
Interesting. I have several sets of the original dice and my d6's are all orange except for one pink one, and I'm not sure that it came with a set or not. None of my original d6's were red. (Actually, none of my original dice of any shape were red.) The color of those d6s is deceptive. Some people's eyes see it as orange, some see it as red. The lighting can change the way it appears, particularly in photos, which I think has contributed to the confusion. That is an interesting thought, and one that I hadn't heard before. To me, my d6's are clearly orange but I often wonder about how we classify colors and what other people see. (For example, school busses are to me clearly yellow, but I've had folks tell me they are a shade of orange.) Anyway, I see orange and so I bought orange for my Chessex dice when I replicated my original sets. (I like the Chesses ones a lot better than the Gamescience dice. I bought sets of both.) |
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Post by Malchor on Aug 19, 2018 9:54:18 GMT -6
Honestly, I hated trimming the nubs and 'flash' off of them and I never could get the color to hold in the numbers. Other than that I liked them. My Armory dice from the 1980s had the flashing removed before purchase, and the inking I did way back then never came off. I used a Sakura Pen-Touch Extra Fine 0.7mm Silver paint pen on that set way back in the 1980s. GS sells (and I believe uses) Decocolor paint pens for silver and gold at least. A set of dice I had them ink had silver ink fall out, same happened with a set I inked with a silver Decocolor paint pen. I recently reinked my GS d20 with a newly purchased Sakura Pen-Touch in silver, so at some point will see if the issue is the paint in the pens or the plastic used in the dice. The silver paint in both pens is much different in character when using, so I do expect a difference. The paint in Decocolor pens actually varies in character from color to color a bit (painting with silver vs blue or red (which behave the same) vs black (a bit thicker than the blue and red). For black, I'm likely to use a sharpy—or maybe grease pen for both black and white—rather than a paint pen. What are you using to color the numbers? Edit: Picked up a china pencil (aka grease pencil), it does work for numbering. Newer Crayolas are not waxy enough, and cheap crayons tend to break up. The wax in China pencils is similar to that of crayons, but stronger. Will have to see how they hold up. I see China Pencils now come in a variety of colors too. |
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Post by Malchor on Aug 19, 2018 10:17:36 GMT -6
So, I don't think price is an issue. The minor extra work for state-of-the-art fairness is just a fun project. As an engineer myself, I enjoy this kind of thing. Not sure how anyone can complain about GS pricing. There are now "artisanal" dice in metal, meteorite materials, and other exotic materials. If you want to see polishing in action, Zucati sells plastic dice with three levels of finish (raw, single polish and glass polish). |
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Post by sixdemonbag on Aug 19, 2018 11:31:49 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 14:55:35 GMT -6
It's funny how gamers really go for Bling. At Gary Con I went up to a vendor with lots of dice and asked for GS and he had to dig a box out from under his table. Everything else was swirly, glitter, day glow...  Ever since I discovered GS, I've used nothing but, and they were cheap at the convention with lots of truly odd pale colors. I don't bother to color them in, I just lean up close and squint like a real gamer should. Oh yeah, GS is the only way to go.  |
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Post by murquhart72 on Aug 30, 2018 22:58:06 GMT -6
The color of those d6s is deceptive. Some people's eyes see it as orange, some see it as red. The lighting can change the way it appears, particularly in photos, which I think has contributed to the confusion. That is an interesting thought, and one that I hadn't heard before. To me, my d6's are clearly orange but I often wonder about how we classify colors and what other people see. (For example, school busses are to me clearly yellow, but I've had folks tell me they are a shade of orange.) Anyway, I see orange and so I bought orange for my Chessex dice when I replicated my original sets. (I like the Chesses ones a lot better than the Gamescience dice. I bought sets of both.) Agreed. I've actually seen pics of original d6 dice that looked more "orangy" than the red I have. |
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Post by Malchor on Aug 31, 2018 8:59:30 GMT -6
That is an interesting thought, and one that I hadn't heard before. To me, my d6's are clearly orange but I often wonder about how we classify colors and what other people see. (For example, school busses are to me clearly yellow, but I've had folks tell me they are a shade of orange.) Anyway, I see orange and so I bought orange for my Chessex dice when I replicated my original sets. (I like the Chesses ones a lot better than the Gamescience dice. I bought sets of both.) Agreed. I've actually seen pics of original d6 dice that looked more "orangy" than the red I have.I've seen photos that look red like this one and this one and other that look orange like this one and this one, and a few that are somewhere between the two like this one. Perhaps it is lighting. But it could also be that there was a color control issue in manufacturing due to mixing two or more pigments. We need to get one set of each in the same room with the same light I've seen photos that: Look red   Look orange   And a few that are somewhere between  Perhaps it is lighting. But it could also be that there was a color control issue in manufacturing due to mixing two or more pigments. The blue and green dies seem to shift between darker and lighter as well—could be lighting or batch variation. We need to get one set of each in the same room with the same light SaveSaveSaveSave |
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Post by waysoftheearth on Sept 1, 2018 4:35:11 GMT -6
We need to get one set of each in the same room with the same light Here are some of my dice; note the different reds...  |
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Post by Finarvyn on Sept 1, 2018 5:12:28 GMT -6
Funny, but those all look orange to me. Some darker, some lighter, yet all orange.
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Post by Malchor on Sept 1, 2018 8:41:46 GMT -6
We need to get one set of each in the same room with the same light Here are some of my dice; note the different reds... Looks like color variation in production batch was a thing for sure. Now I'm wondering if production variations in plastic also affected durability. Could be the Creative Publications had more than one manufacturing facility or switched manufacturing partner at some point—perhaps to meet TSR's growing demand. |
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Post by Zenopus on Sept 1, 2018 10:09:41 GMT -6
Funny, but those all look orange to me. Some darker, some lighter, yet all orange. They all look orange to me as well, but on the orange-red spectrum. Orange with a tinge of red rather than pure orange like the fruit. I know different people can perceive colors differently, particular when they are on the edge between two different colors. All of Malchor's photos look like the same color to me, just with different lighting. |
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Post by Malchor on Sept 1, 2018 10:38:15 GMT -6
Funny, but those all look orange to me. Some darker, some lighter, yet all orange. All of Malchor's photos look like the same color to me, just with different lighting. True, but waysoftheearth has two d6 and two d8 in the same image that show clear variation. |
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Post by sixdemonbag on Sept 1, 2018 11:17:08 GMT -6
Don't forget that everyone's display monitor affects the color grading too. We would need the photographer to adjust the white point on a professionally calibrated monitor to match what his eyes perceive. Then, that image would have to be viewed on a likewise calibrated monitor with an accurate white point reference.
It just so happens that red is one the least accurate colors on most cheap monitors making matters worse.
The easiest method would be for WotE to describe the two colors using some real-world reference we all have access to (i.e. standard Crayola colors, etc.)
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Post by Finarvyn on Sept 1, 2018 13:29:06 GMT -6
They all look orange to me as well, but on the orange-red spectrum. Orange with a tinge of red rather than pure orange like the fruit. I know different people can perceive colors differently, particular when they are on the edge between two different colors. That describes them well. A tinge of red, but fundamentally orange. Rather than just look at photos, I pulled out my box of OD&D dice (which I haven't actually looked at in maybe a year) to get a better reference. I have a half dozen sets of these and all look significantly more orange to me than they do red. Sadly, some of the white d20's (0-9 twice) don't look very white anymore.  Also, it would appear that I have misplaced one of my caltrop d4's. The easiest method would be for WotE to describe the two colors using some real-world reference we all have access to (i.e. standard Crayola colors, etc.) A great idea! I'll look to see if we still have any of those 64-color Crayola boxes. I doubt I do, as my kids are now in their 20's, but it's possible that we have an old art box somewhere. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 16:38:19 GMT -6
Agreed. I've actually seen pics of original d6 dice that looked more "orangy" than the red I have.I've seen photos that look red like this one and this one and other that look orange like this one and this one, and a few that are somewhere between the two like this one. Perhaps it is lighting. But it could also be that there was a color control issue in manufacturing due to mixing two or more pigments. We need to get one set of each in the same room with the same light I've seen photos that: Look red Look orange And a few that are somewhere between Perhaps it is lighting. But it could also be that there was a color control issue in manufacturing due to mixing two or more pigments. The blue and green dies seem to shift between darker and lighter as well—could be lighting or batch variation. We need to get one set of each in the same room with the same light SaveSaveSaveSaveUh, that looks like the old crumbly soft TSR dice. My game science from the 70's never chipped like that. I have one from the first run of clear dice and it's still really nice looking. |
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Post by Finarvyn on Sept 1, 2018 17:12:11 GMT -6
Those ARE the old crumbly soft TSR dice. I think that the point of the thread (unless I am mis-recalling) was that a poster was buying GameScience dice in the same color scheme in order to replicate an old set. That led to a discussion of d6's -- red or orange.
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Post by waysoftheearth on Sept 1, 2018 21:41:55 GMT -6
Those ARE the old crumbly soft TSR dice. I think that the point of the thread (unless I am mis-recalling) was that a poster was buying GameScience dice in the same color scheme in order to replicate an old set. That led to a discussion of d6's -- red or orange. Here are those "red-orange-ish" TSR dice next to some orange GameScience dice:  Let me see if I can find some Pantone colour swatches to include in the picture... |
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Post by Finarvyn on Sept 2, 2018 5:12:52 GMT -6
Interesting. The "top" d6 looks to be a very close match in color, the "bottom" d6 looks more reddish but that could be the angle since the side of the "top" d6 looks similar to the top of the "bottom" one. The pink d20 doesn't at all look orange or red. The orange on the Gamescience dice is sort of a pale shade, to me. Not like "Chicago Bears orange" or "Orange Crush" soda orange. d**n Crayola for inventing all those colors.  |
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Post by asaki on Sept 2, 2018 12:11:50 GMT -6
I've been using them for years now, and can't bring myself to use "round" dice anymore. I've got quite a few sets of "ugly" dice, a set of glow-in-the-dark, and a newer set they call "army man green". I have a color burst set too, but I prefer the opaque ones these days. There usually aren't too many sprue bits to cut off (I use a razor blade), and I color mine in with crayon during game sessions (when I'm not DM). The only thing I don't like is that some of their molds are better than others (I have some d10s and d4s that use inferior molds), and the price has more than doubled from when I first started buying them. I'd like to get a +20. The last time I tried buying one, I was trying to purchase it with my points, but it wasn't working. When you get yours in, let's compare notes!! The "ugly dice" colors are supposedly random and I'd love to see which colors I missed out on, haha. I'll have to take a photo of my ugly sets. Here's my GitD set:  Newer Crayolas are not waxy enough, and cheap crayons tend to break up. I noticed that =/ Even with my "vintage" boxes of Crayolas, some colors work better than others. |
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Post by Malchor on Sept 2, 2018 14:57:58 GMT -6
Here are those "red-orange-ish" TSR dice next to some orange GameScience dice: Let me see if I can find some Pantone colour swatches to include in the picture... I have a GameScience red d6 and another in orange. Now if someone will just send me a set of TSR originals, I will gladly compare ;-) |
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Post by sixdemonbag on Sept 3, 2018 0:25:45 GMT -6
Now, if we could just convince one of those AAA casino dice manufacturers to make and certify some AAA d20's, I'd be one happy hombre. I ended up buying some AAA "d6's" via Amazon thanks to waysoftheearth 's suggestion earlier in this thread. They are very, very nice indeed. Downright luxurious even. You know they mean business when they include an official certificate for the AAA grading and are wrapped in gold foil!  |
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Post by stonetoflesh on Sept 3, 2018 16:37:04 GMT -6
I prefer Gamescience dice to Chessex in general, with the exception of the d6s -- only because I prefer pips to numbers on my six-siders. Gamescience is the only company to my knowledge that makes my favorite d20, the d20+ (0-9 twice, with one set of 0-9 marked with a +). I bought a few about 8 or 9 years ago and have used them extensively. I wanted to pick up a few more earlier this year, and was disappointed to see that the color selection of that die type has really dwindled in their webstore.
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