eris
Level 4 Theurgist
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Post by eris on Jul 28, 2017 17:32:41 GMT -6
So Bastinadi is out for now? Should we try to get more info on it anyway? It's still on the to-do list, after all. I'd say yes! It's on the agenda, probably not the next item, but it's still on there. Besides, we might find someone who'll fund our Generate program. Maybe one of the Professors would like to use some "grant" money to fund an expedition to Bastinadi. We could transport him free, if he buys us the Generate program.
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Post by foxroe on Jul 28, 2017 18:20:18 GMT -6
Sharron suggests speaking with this professor Elwyn Latimer to see if he would be willing to pursue funding for a "scholarly" visit to Bastinadi, and as eris mentioned, we could negotiate free passage in return for a Generate program (or maybe even a 2-way jump tape/cassette).
Mother will look into any connections she may have in the Merchant service to see if anyone she knows is willing to trade our services for a Generate program or a jump cassette...
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Post by tkdco2 on Jul 28, 2017 18:44:55 GMT -6
Sounds good. Since we're already talking to Lukasz, we may as well see what he knows.
Zeb orders a coffee for himself (he'll buy Sharron a cup if she'd like some) and asks Lukasz if he can spare a few minutes.
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Post by ffilz on Jul 31, 2017 14:11:31 GMT -6
Apparently you've stirred up some interest in the university on Bastinadi.
Professor Duhr also speaks to Professor of Astrography Laszlo Balazs and apparently Professor Balazs can use the university computer to generate the necessary jump tapes for you.
Professor Duhr and Lukasz Malewski would both be interested in travelling, Lukasz can contribute 10 kcr towards passage, and would also do working passage. Professor Duhr can pay 10kcr towards passage but will also do working passage.
Oh, and a note on programming, I am going to borrow a bit from the JTAS 1 article on programming which requires 2 months (8 weeks) of prep time followed by the weekly rolls.
Albert would be happy to help you with programming. With Albert, you DO have the skills necessary to write Jump-2 (Computer-2, Pilot-2, Navigation-2).
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eris
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Post by eris on Jul 31, 2017 14:52:20 GMT -6
Apparently you've stirred up some interest in the university on Bastinadi. Professor Duhr also speaks to Professor of Astrography Laszlo Balazs and apparently Professor Balazs can use the university computer to generate the necessary jump tapes for you. Professor Duhr and Lukasz Malewski would both be interested in travelling, Lukasz can contribute 10 kcr towards passage, and would also do working passage. Professor Duhr can pay 10kcr towards passage but will also do working passage. Oh, and a note on programming, I am going to borrow a bit from the JTAS 1 article on programming which requires 2 months (8 weeks) of prep time followed by the weekly rolls. Albert would be happy to help you with programming. With Albert, you DO have the skills necessary to write Jump-2 (Computer-2, Pilot-2, Navigation-2). OOC: Woot!!!
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Post by tkdco2 on Jul 31, 2017 23:44:56 GMT -6
Sounds good, but do we want so many people knowing about our plans? We'd better be on the lookout for any unwanted attention.
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Post by coffee on Aug 1, 2017 7:16:53 GMT -6
Sounds good, but do we want so many people knowing about our plans? We'd better be on the lookout for any unwanted attention. Caution is good, sure, but who pays attention to a bunch of academics?
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Post by ffilz on Aug 1, 2017 10:38:32 GMT -6
Sounds good, but do we want so many people knowing about our plans? We'd better be on the lookout for any unwanted attention. Caution is good, sure, but who pays attention to a bunch of academics? The cat might already be out of the bag with all the various university folks talking to each other... Hopefully Henry's point about folks not paying too much attention to academics keeps things quiet...
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Post by foxroe on Aug 1, 2017 18:47:39 GMT -6
Sharron is relieved that we've finally found a possible ingress to Bastinadi but groans when she learns how long it will take.
"We need to find some work in the mean time. Have to keep my mind occupied... could use a little 'wet work'."
Edit: Thanks for the coffee, Zeb!
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Post by ffilz on Aug 1, 2017 22:21:45 GMT -6
Sharron is relieved that we've finally found a possible ingress to Bastinadi but groans when she learns how long it will take. "We need to find some work in the mean time. Have to keep my mind occupied... could use a little 'wet work'." Edit: Thanks for the coffee, Zeb! You don't need to spend 2 months of programming to get there, that would just be to write Jump-2. Producing the jump cassettes will just take a week.
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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 2, 2017 0:59:28 GMT -6
I guess we'd better stock up on supplies for our trip, then.
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Post by ffilz on Aug 4, 2017 10:37:25 GMT -6
Sharron is relieved that we've finally found a possible ingress to Bastinadi but groans when she learns how long it will take. "We need to find some work in the mean time. Have to keep my mind occupied... could use a little 'wet work'." Edit: Thanks for the coffee, Zeb! What do you mean by 'wet work'?
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Post by ffilz on Aug 4, 2017 10:37:56 GMT -6
Ok, what other prep do you want to do during the week?
We should have cabin assignments and crew position assignments.
Also, I don't know if you made any decision about profit and expense sharing.
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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 4, 2017 14:11:56 GMT -6
Basically, we should take stock of our supplies: provisions, ammo, etc.
That, and making sure the ship is space-worthy for such a trip. That includes berths for any passengers.
Zeb would like to find out about Bastinadi's defenses.
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eris
Level 4 Theurgist
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Post by eris on Aug 4, 2017 14:14:33 GMT -6
Ok, what other prep do you want to do during the week? We should have cabin assignments and crew position assignments. Also, I don't know if you made any decision about profit and expense sharing. On the topic of profit/expense... We have
Logan Schmidt 46,000 Henry Porto 22,010 Zebulon Vorn 9,780 Victor Pérez 90,000 Sharron "Leftenant" Ochenfeld 1,150 (owes Mother 1,450) Mother 2,600
... in credits and Victor and Henry are supplying the ship. If we buy "shares" in the Company, let's say Victor and Henry's share is 20 shares each for the use of theship, then we allow a buy in at 1,000 cr per share.
As an example:
Logan buys 40 shares keeps 6,000 cr Henry buys 20 shares + 20 shares for the ship keeps 2,010 cr Zeb buys 9 shares keeps 780 cr Victor buys 40 shares + 20 shares for the ship keeps 50,000 cr Sharron buys 1 share keeps 150 cr Mother buys 2 shares keeps 600 cr That gives the company 112,000 cr in working capital. That should get us flying and allow a small speculative cargo buy for sale on Cheapside.
Company owership would be based on 152 shares (appox):
Victor 60 shares 39% Henry 40 shares 26% Logan 40 shares 26% Zeb 9 shares 6% Mother 2 shares 1% Sharron 1 share 1% Of course, it would be easier to divide profits if we had a nice round number like 200 shares. That could be done easily if Victor and Logan put up more money and/or we allocated a larger number of shares for the use of the ship. This would dilute everyone else's share of ownership, though, and Zeb, Sharron and Mother are already pretty low.
I suggest a profit sharing approach in lieu of salaries.
What do you all think?
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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 4, 2017 14:22:23 GMT -6
Sounds good to me.
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Post by ffilz on Aug 4, 2017 15:12:53 GMT -6
Is a 1% profit share even going to be as good as standard crew salary?
As an aside, I've been halfway tempted by the idea of equal shares. It seems counter-intuitive in one sense, but the truth is that you all are taking risks. And the bulk of the capital for the expedition is actually a loan from the Scout Service...
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Post by foxroe on Aug 4, 2017 19:14:56 GMT -6
I'm good with it either way. I agree with Frank though - not sure 1% or 2% profit sharing is worth it. Frank - "Wet work", or " wetwork", is slang for the sort of thing I envision Sharron used to be involved in...
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eris
Level 4 Theurgist
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Post by eris on Aug 4, 2017 23:11:34 GMT -6
Frankly, I'm fine with equal profits, too. After all, it's a game! However, I also think we should pool money in a "Company" even if we give everyone equal shares.
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Post by coffee on Aug 5, 2017 9:22:11 GMT -6
Pool money, equal shares. Works for Henry; Scouts tend toward informality.
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eris
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Post by eris on Aug 5, 2017 16:11:05 GMT -6
Pool money, equal shares. Works for Henry; Scouts tend toward informality. Merchants tend toward greed. But, yeah, let's do equal shares and pool our money.
BTW, our ship has can carry 27 dtons of cargo + another 10 dtons if we stuff the ship's boat's cargo hole. That's up to 37 dtons of cargo space we should fill.Logan will go looking for a speculative cargo. Ludgates is Ni, Na, Va and Cheapside is Ag, Ni I'll roll up one and we can decide whether we're interested in buying. I rolled [1d6] = 6 [1d6] = 1, for a Spec Cargo. 61 Electronics Parts 100,000 I-4,R-3 N1+2, P+l 1Dx5 I rolled [1d6] = 6 for the quantity. So, that's 30 dtons of parts available. We can buy from 1 to 30 dtons of parts. The base price to purchase is determined by a 2d6 with DM's for using a broker and for Bribery and Admin. The broker level is +1 to +4 with a sales commission of 5% per level. I'll roll the 2d6, then we can...as a group decide on Broker and apply Zeb's +1 Bribery. I rolled [2d6] = 7, that's 100%. If we add Zeb's Bribery and Brokerage we can reduce that to: Broker ACTable Value Commission Price 0 6 90% -- 90,000/dton 1 5 80% 5% 84,000/dton 2 4 70% 10% 77,000/dton 3 3 50% 15% 57,500/dton 4 2 40% 20% 48,000/dton So, (A) did I do this right and (B) are we interested in buying 1 or 2 dtons of Electronic Parts with a +2 DM for sale on Cheapside?
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Post by foxroe on Aug 5, 2017 19:02:30 GMT -6
Just as a reminder: Mother, ever the capitalist, will "call around" (maybe through some Merchant service contacts) and see if there are any prospective (lucrative) cargoes destined for Bastinadi. Mother is able to line up these possibilities: High Passengers: 3 Mid Passengers: 3 Low Passengers: 6 (you could take 1 in the medical bay if you wanted) Available cargoes are: 15 ton, 15 ton, 20 ton, 30 ton Speculative Cargo: 25 tons of Electronic Parts at 80,800 cr per ton (I have applied the 1% surcharge for breaking up the lot since you can't take or afford a 25 ton cargo) You will actually have another week to seek cargo while the Generate program is written if you want to see what else comes up for speculation.
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Post by ffilz on Aug 15, 2017 23:27:25 GMT -6
Hmm, got to figure out, are we waiting for something from me?
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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 16, 2017 1:34:55 GMT -6
I have nothing useful to add. Maybe we should get extra ammo?
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Post by foxroe on Aug 16, 2017 2:45:44 GMT -6
Well, eris made some cargo rolls. I think we're waiting on you to OK it and/or go with your earlier rolls.
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Post by ffilz on Aug 16, 2017 12:28:21 GMT -6
Well, eris made some cargo rolls. I think we're waiting on you to OK it and/or go with your earlier rolls. Oh, yea, let's go with my earlier rolls on cargo.
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Post by tkdco2 on Aug 16, 2017 12:30:10 GMT -6
Sorry, I didn't realize we had to OK the cargo rolls. I'm good with the rolls, if everyone else is good with it as well.
If nothing else, can Zeb do any research on Bastinadi (history, society, etc.) while we're waiting for the delivery.
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Post by foxroe on Aug 16, 2017 17:30:28 GMT -6
OOC - We'd have a chance of making a profit on the electronics parts, but I'm not sure we can afford the going rate. It's kind of a gamble. Perhaps we should look at taking on the passengers?
Frank - Can't inactive Scouts be used for courier duty (mail and such)? If so, we could look for such a cargo. Also, when you say "available cargoes" above, do you mean these are standard shipments that pay the standard 1000 Cr per ton to the shipper?
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Post by ffilz on Aug 16, 2017 18:00:51 GMT -6
OOC - We'd have a chance of making a profit on the electronics parts, but I'm not sure we can afford the going rate. It's kind of a gamble. Perhaps we should look at taking on the passengers? Frank - Can't inactive Scouts be used for courier duty (mail and such)? If so, we could look for such a cargo. Also, when you say "available cargoes" above, do you mean these are standard shipments that pay the standard 1000 Cr per ton to the shipper? Yea, the available cargoes are the standard 1000 cr per ton. Oh, and to take the high passengers, Logan will have to devote time to being Steward, but we already had that noted. Since we ARE based on 1977 rules, he is able to hold both Medic and Steward positions (he would need Medic-2 per 1981 rules on holding two positions). He would not get Medic skill DMs on low passage survival (but if you are adventuring and need a Medic roll, he gets to apply his skill). Mail contracts are given to subsidized merchants. If the Scout service had something they needed sent along, there would be no compensation (the compensation being the use of the ship for your own purposes and the services offered at Scout Bases). Frank
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eris
Level 4 Theurgist
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Post by eris on Aug 18, 2017 15:10:46 GMT -6
Sorry, I didn't realize we had to OK the cargo rolls. I'm good with the rolls, if everyone else is good with it as well. If nothing else, can Zeb do any research on Bastinadi (history, society, etc.) while we're waiting for the delivery. OOC: Sure, fine with me. I was just trying to keep things moving.
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